Here’s just an example of a “Base” or “Stone” that Nick made back in 2019.
If you liked how it worked, and wanted to make a Custard Donut, you COULD start out with Nick’s “Base” or “Stone”, and just layer custard/creams on top.
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I’m learning as I go…
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Back to zzzzz. Night All!
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thanks for your patience.
I understood well what one-shot is, because you explained the composition.
the stones are still confused: I understood that they are only “parts” to create different recipes…but is the composition the same and only aroma without PG/VG/nic?
this could make sense to me because the total steeping would not take place but only a mixing of the aromas, which is a good thing even in long storage times.
it’s correct?
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I see that the complete recipe is in the stones, therefore PG/VG and nicotine…
What is eluding me for what purpose I have to create a ready stone and which is therefore in the maturation phase if I can then add aromas and am forced to prolong the steeping?
Some aromas and nic degrade and lose strength…something unbalanced could result.
I may be naive, but I see no use… for me it can only make sense if the stone is made only of aromas, where am I wrong?
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Yes, the “Stones” or “Bases” are just flavors with no PG/VG/NIC, and/or are just used as PART of a recipe. Using @KC111’s example, say you wanted to make a Corn Flakes and Milk recipe. You COULD start from scratch with all of the trial and error and get your corn flakes worked out, then all of the creams/dairies, and then sweetener. If you DID however have a great Milk Stone, you could just use that, saving lots of time, trial and error, and just focus or creating the Corn Flakes part of the recipe.
Say you had 5 different variations, or testers, you would start out by adding the milk stone, then try to get the corn flakes worked out, etc.
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No. You are talking 8ml of pg its not going to change it much at all wont even notice anything. I find sometimes the nic hits a little harder buts its mostly in my head
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You have hit on another BENEFIT of using Stones. More so with creams, bakeries, custards, etc., which are richer and take time to steep/meld/homogenize. The flavors CAN pre-steep while they are in your stone bottle. NOW, this doesn’t mean you won’t have to steep the final recipe, but it CAN save some time having PRE-mixed stones/bases in use.
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"Yes, the “Stones” or “Bases” are just flavors with no PG/VG/NIC, and/or are just used as PART of a recipe. "
Perfect, that’s the definitive answer, thanks!
Out of curiosity: is there a section dedicated exclusively to stones or a specific way in which they are cataloged to be recognized, so as to be able to draw on information to benefit from the experience of others?
Because apparently (as in your example) the stones are complete with PG/VG and nicotine and in the eyes of an inexperienced person (me) it might seem like a common recipe…
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Searching the recipe side for Stone or Base will help, but it may take some weeding out …
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In small steps I begin to understand, thanks again for your availability @SessionDrummer , I really appreciate it 
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I can’t say with any certainty why, it just happens. I’ve had juices that were ADVs for sometime then one day I just lose interest.
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Not quite. It’s the concentrated base of a recipe. You only have to add PG/VG and nicotine to it.
It’s a way to save time preparing a mix you like to vape a lot. As @rcleven said, it is a one shot
As for the ripening with or without nicotine, opinions differ on the subject.
I suggest making two samples, one with and one without nic and see which one you like best.
That’s the only criteria there is for these kind of things. Preference.
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Yes, I do agree. Thinking on it last night, I think the flavour is deeper/more developed when nicotine is mixed. Well for me anyway 
Sorry, I wasn’t very clear 
I would add nic when mixing smaller amounts for immediate use. If I was going to store the juice for a long time I would add the nic at a later time, closer to when I would use it. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks ZigZag.
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Thank you for the explanation, now everything is crystal clear and I understand the reasons for your actions.
Thanks for the time you dedicated to me, I’m reading a lot, even outside of here, to have a wider panorama of experiences
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Wal mart has those 16 oz restaurant style dispensing bottles for around a dollar for 2.I use them and the flow is just right if not a little restrictive when using a lot.
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It’s been 2 years and the first message is OFF-TOPIC… this coincidence is very curious.
I begin to understand perfectly the dynamics of events.
This is my last message on ELR, I thank those who have supported me so far, a big hug for you 
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He was chiming in about @rcleven showing what he uses for dispensing vg. This is how topics go as others join and ask ?’s. Where not a communist regime that keeps everything in order and dont stop people from talking off topic. If you where looking for direct advice you could pm people. Nothing here is dictated we speak open and freely. Now if this is something you are not accustomed too i would take the opinion you might be in a communist or a dictatorship country. Im just saying
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