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For your first attempt at NET, I think starting out with a good tobacco would be a big benefit in the long run. Who would want to wait 3 to 6 months and find out their NET is blah, because a cheap tobacco was used? I’m not sure what is available locally, in NZ, as far as tobacco shops and what they might carry. I’m also not familiar with tobacco import laws in NZ and what restrictions there are for ordering tobacco online.
Look over this thread, and it may give you some tips as to what type of tobacco you may decide to start with.
If you find something you want to try, and it’s available, go for it! As @Josephine_van_Rijn said, You can just cover the tobacco with PG, in a jar, and stash it while it does it’s thing.
That 3 to 6 months, waiting for your NET, gives you that time to experiment with commercial tobacco flavorings. It also gives you time to gather your NET making supplies (filters, etc). You may find something you really enjoy, in the mean time. Once your NET is ready, you can vape it straight up, alone, or experiment, and mix it with commercial flavorings that you enjoy, and make a hybrid NET/commercial flavoring blend.
The experimenting and discoveries are fun, and a great way to fine tune your mixes to what YOU enjoy.
Good luck and have fun!
see this thread
Yes, if you like tobacco vapes it’s worth getting.
From my notes:
“Introducing RTS Tobacco Absolute (PG). Our own unique Tobacco Absolute pure 100% oil extract is diluted 90% (50% TA, 40% PG and 10% EA) for easy use in your e-liquid. This product contains ethyl alcohol and Contains EM.4-16 weeks steep.This product is highly concentrated please start with 1 drop at a time until you are familiar with the taste.Tobacco Absolute is a naturally very bitter flavour and works great in small amounts when combined with Flavourart tobacco flavours to add bitterness.TA adds real zest to an otherwise bland tobacco, use 1% in most tobaccos; makes it “pop”.”
Just about out of RTS TA (Out of Business) so looking at ECX/BC/Inawera.
Tobacco Absolutes, in small quantity/low percentage, can give you that true tobacco quality in a vape. Most TA (Nicotiana Tabacum) purchased from a flavor vendor such as…
ECX:
Or
MFS:
…have somewhat of a dank, musty, grassy, hay-like quality when vaped as a stand alone mix. These notes will lessen with steep time when mixed in a recipe.
Another TA one can use is Nicotiana Rustica Absolute; quite different in flavor from the Nicotiana Tabacum Absolute. It is more bright and lively, and can add a nice lift to an otherwise blah tobacco note in a mix. It can be purchased here:
https://perfumersupplyhouse.com/product/tobacco-absolute/
Below is my recipe and notes for mixing the N. Rustica:
The above vendors are all US based.
Thanks everyone !I might go for that Juice Factory one ,there is another Australian vendor that has a few Inawera so they might have Garuda Inawera.
Might like to read some more about tobacco Sydney style vapes:
Charles has probably forgotten more than most of us will ever know
I doubt the accuracy of that statement. He may be a nice guy, but that site makes the basic classic mistake that most “mixers” make when dipping their toe in tobacco. That is the failure to very clearly distinguish between artificial tobacco flavoring profiles that are created in the chemistry lab as opposed to the real product as produced by mother nature. Most mixers treat the two worlds as connected by a bridge on which they can walk back and forth at will. Nothing could be further from the truth.
That sort of error leads to a lot of bad information on sites like Charles statement: "Flavorah Tobaccos ,…happen to be superior to most in terms of authenticity. These are up there with the best tobaccos you can buy,… " That statement is total rubbish. It is worth noting that all his suggested recipes contain, as their main base, the artificial products from FLAVORAH and none from INW. This is incredible, as he mentions in his list of available purveyors of tobacco flavors the products from INW which actually does sell true tobacco based flavors, in particular they do sell true Tobacco Absolute, But the site never lists the proper use of those products and never points out how substantially different they are from artificial chemistry.
The OP asked about TA which is a natural tobacco based extraction process. To direct him (a self admitted “beginner”) to a site that focuses on artificial flavor chemistry without the necessary cautionary statements about crossing the bridge is to do the OP a great disservice. I understand that FLAVORAH companies marketing has been so effective that most “reviewers” and re-sellers peddle the products without thinking.
It’s my understanding that TA need to be diluted before its used in mixes. Can anyone suggest the dilution ratio?
Personally, I took this type of TA and diluted: 1ml TA to 9 ml PG. But, to each his/her own.
Did you ever test this TA MF?
I never did try the MF TA. TA’s never really did float my boat, personally. I was more of a INW Dirty Neutral Base guy… and some of the other INW “Absolutes” (more like flavors) came in handy.
Hey everyone I have got Juice Factory’s SC Tobacco Absolute on the way …its funny the amount of times I have looked at their Tobacco section and never really noticed TA ,my next query is what % to use as a Single Flavour (I m keen to test it) or in a recipe? TIA I m still considering doing a PG N.E.T in future
One drop of TA in 10ml of your base mix is a good place to start.
Cool thanks man!So into the VG/PG base then …I usually do 70 VG /30 PG.It seems like NET will be the way forward in future though as a lot of Tobacco flavours are a bit too synthetic IMO.I do like Black for Pipe and Dark for Pipe but yeah not the same as real tobacco.
Yup… even with TA, the flavor (IMO) is no where near the taste of a good NET.
How tough is it to get your hands on pipe tobacco there in NZ? I tried looking for NZ tobacconists online… slim pickings!
Hey yeah I hav’nt looked into it yet ,they are usually pretty flavoured…Guess what though …I have ordered some Nicotina Rustica seeds ,will be a long term thing I guess but its early summer here so will try and get em going.Its actually cheaper to get whole leaf tobacco from the US as there are mad taxes between Australia and New Zealand.