I forgot how much I like this thread. Most helpful place on the internet! I’ve done a few hot extractions and messed around a bit but the gunk factor is what keeps me from fully embracing the NET lifestyle. I filter through an aeropress twice, once with coffee filter, second time with 2 micron filter. Still gunky city after about 5mL in my dripper. I’m considering getting a cheap vacuum pump to attempt sub micron filtering.
Have you guys gone 100% NET or do you still dabble with synthetics. If you do, what are your favs?
My top synthetics are as follows…
-INW Black For Pipe
-INW Dark For Pipe
-INW Gold For Pipe
-FLV Red Burley
-SC Cohiba
-FLV Native or Kentucky (they taste pretty much the same imo)
-TFA Western (haven’t found a better leather note)
-INW DNB
-FA Black Fire
-FLV Virginia (yes, not satisfactory but it beats FA Virginia)
-INW Cuban, Virginia, Garuda TA
For me, that is the cream of the crop and nothing else I try has come close. Can’t find anything else that competes with that list in the non-aromatic tobacco category.
I haven’t been on the Reddit in a while to catch some of your reviews, but I always enjoy reading your findings!
Your favs list was pretty much my staple when I was mixing synths. Yeah… I’m 100% NET these days… in the groove and never to return to synths.
My wish for you… try an Ethanol maceration; the gunk factor will be much less worrisome. However, VA tobacco is always going to be somewhat of a gunk issue due to the natural dextrose in the leaf… can’t get around that fact.
Str8vision, with ECF, is the Ethanol maceration master; do some searching in this thread and you’ll be amazed at what you can accomplish.
I wouldn’t be where I am today in my NET skills without gleaning from Str8vision’s mastery of the NET process, willingness to record, and profusely share what he knows with fellow NET lovers! I nominate him for NET Sainthood!
Can anyone help me out a bit, I have been playing around with Inw Ry-4 TDM and at first, I thought this heavy cherry note was Vanilla Tahity I had used, but after mixing single recipe, I still taste heavy cherry. Has anyone else used INW Ry-4 and experienced this? I just cannot find any flavor notes on it in which people tasted cherry, but I do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It is not unheard of that mislabeling or contamination can happen at the source; be it the original source or the sales vendor (should they rebottle from 55 gallon barrels of the stuff). Hell, I’ve gotten tobaccos straight from Poland that were NOT what it said on the label. Disappointed!
But… if it were my job to bottle and label thousands of little bottles of flavoring for minimum wage (maybe)… I might screw up a bottle or two in the process.
Oh thank you very much for the link, you practically read my mind. I remember you mentioning ethanol extractions a while back in context to reducing gunk. Will read up on this.
I’ve been a bit quiet on Reddit lately. Mostly just lurking. Work has had me pretty busy, managed to post a few this week tho and will hopefully get back in the groove.
Very true. It’s satisfying in some way tho. Having received so much help from people like yourself, it’s the least I can do to give back and pass the knowledge forward. Best community on earth! (especially the tobacco heads :))
Or put coffee or mocha into the search line and you’ll find a great number of folks have searched for a coffee or mocha flavor… then, just add your favorite tobacco concentrate and BAM!!! …there’s your juice.
My opinion is that ry4double is not really a tobacco flavor.you know it mostly is caramel and vanilla and just a light scent of tobacco.at 10% as a solo test after 20 days steeping i am pretty sure you get mostly burnt caramel.maybe try it in lower percentage.about 5-6% and 15 days steep would be better.but still not a real tobacco flavor.it is good in all kinds of mixes from tobacco to apple pies but if you look for a real tobacco mix i think inawera is really the only way if we leave out the net concentrates
I’ve never been particularly impressed with what RY4 Double brings to the table, either. It seems to be a very popular choice, when added to bakery or dessert type recipes with multiple flavors, that are then called a ‘tobacco’. Maybe it’s just me, but when a recipe with a 10% total of various flavors has 1.5% RY4D added, why bother? I don’t think I’d be able to tell there was even a tobacco in there.
With people that usually don’t like tobacco’s. Like Soho it does very well in bakery, dessert juices but I wouldn’t call it a tobacco juice either.
I’m ing now waiting for the backlash
Well, I’ll share some of the backlash with you…lol.
Out of the RY flavors I have tried, I like the HS RY1 the best. I mix that 50/50 with HS Indian (RY1 also goes well with HS Highway) to make a tobacco ‘base’ for a recipe. If I want to steer it a bit, towards a RY4 ‘style’ combo, I’ll add just a bit of INW Vanilla for Pipe, and just a bit of FA Caramel Candy. I figure since it’s a tobacco mix, why not use a vanilla tobacco for the vanilla component? Besides, it’s the only vanilla I have…lol. But it works.
I think the trick is start with a good tobacco ‘base’ then add just a bit of the complimentary flavors to move towards the RY4 type flavor desired. I dunno, that’s just my thought process. We’re DIYers, why use someone else’s version of RY4, when it’s easy to build a customized version of our own.
ry4 flavors are mostly virginia-burley tobaccos mixed with caramel and vanilla.i also use vanilla for pipe but i think vanilla shisha inawera is also a very good support in tobacco recipes
I nominate him for NET Sainthood!
…there’s your juice.
ing now waiting for the backlash 
