id second that , if i could start all over again id try to learn with the premium flaves
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The warning list steve put up is a great reference to check when ordering. Also great advice from Pro_Vapes I can’t stress this enough. As a beginner you’re not quite sure how much you’d like to invest in this hobby I get it but if I had to do it all over again ( and I would ) I’d buy quality not quantity ingredients. I didn’t get named Flavor Queen overnight 
Def the big 3 have flavors I still buy from today but I found I really started to grow once I got into buying premium concentrates.
Also pace yourself …this is hard I know I’m still learning to do it as well. Hype flavors come out and yep somebody is guna buy them if you wait you’ll be able to save yourself the few bucks. I was a guinea pig for an enormous amount of yucky flavors over the years oh well somebody had to do it …right !
Best thing your doing is asking 
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Boy I agree with this. Some of these premium vendors weren’t around when we came up, but now that they are, I’d say the sooner you research these premium vendors the better. You can save yourself a lot of headaches and $$$.
Round 1 of my Stash Cleansing. I still have a couple rounds to go…
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I am right w/ you been cleaning and trashing ALOT of the oldies they are just sitting in the way of awesome new premium flavors
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I’d just hate to see new mixers start down the same path as us. There are truly some awesome premium flavors out there that not researched by newer mixers. I wish there was a premium starter package of must have premium flavors supported by the top norms.
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I agree that is why we worked hard on the research list because we were fed up w/ crappy flavors lol ! Hey you may can get something started w/ one of the vendors to put together a premium line kit ! Good thought
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LOVE this idea 
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I don’t no of any vendor that carry all the premiums we use. That sounds like a local project. I kinda took a little bashing about this post because of the message it sends. My thoughts were the vendor choices was a bit narrow for the top recipes for a entire year. Some people saw it as me being critical…
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I personally didn’t think either one of your guys were too critical of the whole thread I actually thought it was portrayed as inquiring and earnest to be truthful.
I may just be one sided and that isn’t my intentions but I don’t see to much of a challenge if it has barriers so no you in my mind were most likely saying what others were thinking
I wonder if BCF or ECX would be up for it even Gremlin has a good mix of everyone.
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Thank you so much for the tips! That really actually helped alot!
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I thought it was excellent advice because coming into this new there so much to learn! I’d rather avoid the pitfalls if I can. I notice I could go a little crazy ordering flavors but I’m trying to stay small until I figure out what my taste buds like. I’m glad I posted this BC now I think I’m going to wait on a expensive mixing device until I have more experience. I’m glad that people are sharing what they know 
Thanks everyone!
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ELR is unique that doesn’t put limits on anyone here, except to be respectful of others. It’s very hard to be banned here and speaking your mind is acceptable. I think ELR is shunned by some other forums and we need to do more as far as our contribution to the DIY world is concerned. I’m a member of several DIY forums, but I walk a thin line there and haven’t been truly accepted by any. They seem to have cliques that run the show and they really limit who they let in. So when someone say user stay in their bubble, it’s not from trying to expand to other groups. Nobody or group know all there is to DIY and sharing knowledge, not opinions is best for the DIY community.
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I agree versatility is key as well as having an open mind. There is no one size fits all. Togther we stand strong and learn from one another.
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Watch out for too many good deals, it could lead to poverty.
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This didn’t come out as intended. I in no way had any adverse feelings about my interaction with @Wayne_Walker. I just felt some of the later comments from some of the members here missed the mark of the concerns I really tried to express.
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You are shipping this flat rate Usps to me right?
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You don’t want it. Shipping cost won’t even cover their usefulness. For me it’s a lesson learned.
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Had to look real close and you are right. Never mind
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Shelley
I’ve already got 3 large jars of my first mistakes. 100ml each and all taste very much the same of Maple (Pancake Syrup) and are destined to be dumped into a single bigger jar as soon as I find one. What was almost toxic Waffles and Maple settled down after a weeks steep but it’s still intense vaped and not the target at all.
Make lots of tiny batches of wide ranging flavors numbers. I’m down to 3.5 grams of VG, .5 of PG and doing the flavors by drops to get in the ballpark of the flavors I’m after. Start with 1 target and say 2-3 or 4 flavors and vary the numbers all across the board to find what your nose and tongue likes best. Working with 4ml of basic juice leaves me a 20% window to flavor and it amounts to just a few drops per of each flavor needed… It’ll let you make a lot of varied flavor attempts with a minimum of materials. I’m working all this for flavors only and it’s all 0 nicotine.
My local head-smoke shop has a nice selection of small 30ml wide mouth jars for a good price so I’ve got 10 and I’ll get 30 more as testers as I’ve already filled the first set. Jars and more jars, your gonna need a bigger boat. 
My newbee 2 cents
Bob
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This is great! I can’t wait to read more! Sorry I missed it! Yes sir you are right! You gotta get on the hype train! Just like premium juice…u have advertise and be hype! It doesn’t matter if ur juice is terrible or not!
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