Medicine Flower Tasting Notes

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Posting my reviews of 5 more Medicine Flower extracts I bought as part of a small group buy.

I would like to state these are just my findings and measurements based on my own personal taste test and in no way are a recommendation or something that is written in stone to follow, if you decide to try these flavours for yourself. As plenty of previous posts have stated in the past in regards to reviews, you should always test any flavours you purchase and tailor them to your own preferences.

All 5 flavours I have mixed in an all AG base at 12mg and each flavour is mixed at 3, 4 and 5 drops per 10ml. I have made enough to sample a tankful of every strength over a 4 week period, so I will be able to see how they develop over that time.

All will be tested on Sigelei 75w TC mod and Uwell Crown Tank using a stock 0.25 ohm Coil

Week 2 Steep - All tested on 0.25 ohm coil at a range of 33w-38w, There has been little or noticable colour change except for a tinge of yellowness to the finished liquid after 2 weeks

Black Cherry

Instantly recognisable as Black Cherry, very potent, slightly sour but overall quite a natural sweetness comes through. Too strong and sickly for me to be a standalone vape (I find the real thing too sickly for my tastes also, if I have more than a couple). 3 drops were more than adequate hoping the sweetness will die back a bit with a longer steep. But I plan to use this at 1 or 2 drops in tobacco and cream/yoghurt mixes in the future

Orange

Very natural clean flavour, sweet juicy jaffa type taste comes through with a little citric/zest tang occasionally. Good overall flavour, preferring 5 drops may need to be mixed slightly stronger? Feels ready to vape after a fortnights steep, be interesting to see if the flavour develops any further.

Peach

Struggling with this one, plenty of peach flavour coming through even at 3 drops, but like the strawberry something just isn’t quite there. Very dry and cloying finished flavour, needs more sweetness added I feel to make this flavour come alive.

Pear

Really good Juicy Pear flavour with this, liking it very much, Bit of a sharp citric kick with loads of sweet juicy pear flavour coming through overall, 4 drops seem adequate for a finished flavour.

Pineapple

I really like this one, my first hour on it, I wasn’t impressed, tasted a bit funky, but I think once my tastebuds had got used to it. I really began to like it. Ripe pineapple taste with a good amount of sweetness to it. I think I was hoping for that really sharp almost sour taste you can get with a pineapple sometimes and that wasn’t there for me. Found vaping this for 48 hours it built a pineapple taste in my palate and tongue that was there even when I wasn’t actually vaping. 4 drops seem right at this early stage.

Will start a second test to cover the 4th week of steeping later next week and post any changes/development of flavours after that, if there is still any interest in these flavours and my reviews

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Has anyone tried the Stevita brand of stevia extract liquid form yet?

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I got some after research, and reviews…Reported to be one of the finest with no extra ingredients, except grapefruit seed extract, used as a preservative…no fillers and a clean extraction process, without chemicals that are used in extraction of other brands…have not used it yet, but will be experimenting with it on a citrus vape I got mixed, here in a few days…

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Be very interested to hear the results!
Every sweetener so far, Cap and TFA, leaves an unpleasant aftertaste for me!
Would love to find a sweetener that works as I have a very sweet tooth!

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Got a Citrus blend which is bold, full bodied, but too sharp…will be trying it in the next few days

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Hey @Flavor_Alchemist, You had mentioned earlier that you were working with an Agave sweetner -Here-. I’m still very pleased with the Pyure Stevia but still curious how the Agave was working out? Any results yet?

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Doing a test vs the Stevita on that Citrus blend…Thought I would kill 2 birds with 1 stone…will have my results by the end of the week for comparison…Fortunately my Citrus blend is well steeped, so I will be able to add the Stevia to 1 bottle and the Agave to another bottle and vape a day afterward…will keep you posted…

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Awesome, thanks for the update. Hope it turns out well. 2 thumbs up :+1::+1:

Side Note: I’m finding that the Pyure mixed with marshmallow makes for one helluva sweetner :yum:. Ususually 1:2 or 1:4 ratio marshmallow over Pyure so something like…
0.5% Stevia
2% Marshmallow

If the Agave turns out good, I was thinking I’d give it a try too and see what it could add to the marshmallow/stevia blend :yum:

These sweetner discoveries just keep getting better and better!

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I was delayed a bit because I had originally bought the AMBER Agave…upon further research, it was recommended to use the Agave light…which still is sweet but without a tendancy to clog coils, plus the workability of a lighter strength…note: the Blue Agave is highly recommended NOT to use

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Do you possibly have a link for this stuff…? My Google-Foo must be weak today… All I’m finding is syrup stuff…? I think I’m looking at the wrong stuff :confused:

Edit: nvm, I found it :grinning:

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Cadia Organic Agave Light nectar…got it at a local health food store

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If I don’t let the MF steep or let it steep for only a week do you think I’d have to mix at 5% or is there something wrong with my flavors.
I was told by MF that one bottle (I gave one lot number), was made in Nov. 2014.
Then, when I had to mix them at 5% and/or add other brands to make it strong enough, I thought there was something wrong.
I had heard you mix it at 1%.
This is what I did…
I put 5 drops in 30 ml VG/PG nic 3mg. It was weak.
I doubled that adding 5 more drops.
I still have to add about 1% flavor art chocolate to the chocolate or FA Butterscotch to the MF Butterscotch to vape it and taste butterschotch.
Is it possible it is just me? Other recipes I make from here at ELR are not weak to me. Ya, Apple Jacks was weak, but most other recipies like Third World Custard are strong at times and I add some VG/PGnic to them in my tank when it’s an Aromamizer usually.

Thanks for your opinion. Now The Raw Food World are nice people. MF are not nice people.
In their opinion, they are never wrong and never budge on anything. Quite rude in my opinion.
Oh, and by the way, the owner said the issue with the bottles being not a full 15 ml never happened and it’s all a lie.
Also, it’s a lie that the MF starts loosing potency 4 months after opening. So if you read anything that said that, that man is a lier too according to MF.
You should store it in the cupboard at room temp and it’s good and just as strong even more than 2 years later.
This is according to MF.
All I know is I was told I could send it all back and get a refund and that it must be that my taste buds are broken.
Looking and looking again and again at what I did, I think I’m just mixed up about drops versus milligrams.
Well, today I am going to mix and use a scale for the first time. Thank goodness before I make more trouble.
Oh, and I did put 1 ml of each of my 20 flavors in a 5ml bottle of PG to give to a friend who mixes. He will tell me if my taste buds are broken or not.

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One thing is for sure…5 drops in 30 ml is no way a 5% mix, so I imagine this is where you have gone wrong…Your last statement about drops vs milligrams, I believe, is accurate…I mix by weight…Now your last sentence 1 ml into a 5ml bottle of PG equals 16.6% flavoring…So I am imagining that you may be getting fouled up with your measurements…I mixed MF Watermelon at 2% by scale…Here is what I would do, if I were you…Download EjuiceMeUp calculator and learn how to use it…When you hit the Tools button (top/left) go to Grams set…Nicotine = 1.0352 PG = 1.038 VG = 1.26 Water = 1.00 Flavor = 1.00… these give you gram to ml conversions …Set your nicotine parameters, size of mix etc…on the flavor bar name your flavor …I mixed MF Watermelom…in the percentage box, I entered 2%…Check your Flavor 0 PG/VG box…below…set your PG VG desired ratio…I went 40/60…Lower right…hit calculate…There is your resulting recipe…Now I am wondering what kind of devices you are vaping with?..because coil/wick surface area make a big difference for flavor, along with steeping…since MF is extremely concentrated, I gave it 3 weeks and you can read my observations post 50…I steeped open bottle after an initial frothing, for about 10 hours…then capped it and put it away…visiting it daily, I would squeeze the air out and take in new air…re-cap, shake then put away…Tried at 3 weeks …Not sure what MF flavors you have, so I cannot speak to anything other than Watermelon…After the initial vape, about a week later, the Rind essence faded, and the vape became sweeter, so there still is a change that continues…I store my flavors in the fridge…I don’t use heat, waterbaths or anything to speed steep…

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I copied and pasted what you wrote into my Ejuice info document. I will read, re-read again tomorrow. Thanks.
I am enjoying the mf. Hope you are too.

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Going back to the first set of flavours I ordered (post 49), I struggled to get any real flavour with my initial samples I made of the Strawberry extract at 3, 4,and 5 drops. I have remixed it at 8 and 10 drops per 10ml and what a difference, currently vaping it after a 4 week steep and it is absolutely bang on. A really really good finished, authentic fresh Strawberry flavour. Best strawberry flavour I have sampled by a country mile. Time to find the perfect Dairy Cream flavour to mix it with now.

p.s 10 drops gives me a very strong finshed Strawberry flavour, but 8 drops is slighly more subdued, which enables me to vape it for longer periods than the 10 drops, I am finding.

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What does that equate to in % flavoring?..Are you taking 10 ml base and then adding 8 to 10 drops of flavoring to that OR are you including the 8 to 10 drops as part of the total mix to equal a total of 10 ml ?

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I have mixed all my test samples with 10ml of AG Base (12mg) and then added the drops of extract to that base. So in the case of the MF strawberry I have made one sample using 8 drops and another using 10 drops using the MF Dropper supplied.

I calculated the drops per ml myself using the MF dropper a few months ago, but I would check yourself to see if you get the same.

I measured them at 45 drops per ml so 9 drops of MF strawberry based on this should equate to 2% flavouring

I find it easier to use the dropper and add the drops to 10ml of base when it comes to using them as standalone flavours, I intend to remain consistent to this with all the current and future flavours I get from the MF range due to the strength of the extracts. I don’t do mixing by weights so I either do my standalone samples this way if they are high strength low amount flavours/extracts.

If they were weaker ones like Capella then my test samples I do are done the standard way i.e. 15% flavouring= 1.5ml and then add 8.5ml base to it

When I come to start using these MF extracts in recipes using other brands alongside them, I will switch to the normal way of working out flavours as %'s in the recipes as per examples like these that have already posted.

I am also finding these flavours work better for me with higher ohm coils + 1 ohm and lower watts 25-35 watts than sub ohming at high watts.

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Gotcha…I mix by weight and %s…and even though these MF flavors are a bit more delicate to measure out (being as concentrated as they are)…my scale goes to hundreds…so if I am off by, say .02, by virtue of the last drop I put into the mix, I don’t lose any sleep over it…either way, we are both amounting to similar weights and measures, so to speak… :slightly_smiling: I mixed MF Watermelon at 2% and achieved wonderful flavor and vape experience … The Strawberry, well the jury is still out on that one for me…I mix for smaller tanks which typically have a smaller coil/wick surface area…also I am vaping at about .9 ohms to 1.1 ohms…at about 10 to 15 watts…and being a MTL hitter…, With all these factors considered, generally my formulas incorporate a bit higher flavor %s overall…

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So the caramel was ok as Shake and vape? Did you go with the 1% I have been hearing on both?

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Yes. I mixed it @1% … a little weak as a shake-n-vape, but it gains richness after a week. I mixed it in my Mudslide recipe @ 0.5% and it was really great after 3 week’s steep.

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