Here’s a rather long reading list for you on Atlantis:
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One of the reasons I like you and I never stifle my threads either. 
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I know you are not being serious… Is it humor you are attempting kind sir?
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@Muth seemed to have an interest in the area and I remembered that Sacred Texts had a large number of texts on this area of mythology.
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tongue and cheek? This has got to be a British (and your) sense of humor.
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I’m towards the end of False Alarm. I recommend it. If anything, just read the Conclusion chapter. It pretty much sums up the Copenhagen Consensus Centre think tank about climate change minus all the evidence, graphs and numbers. My mind and opinions have been changed. And frankly, I wasn’t sure I was going to agree with him. I have only one question for him and maybe that will be answered at the very end. We’ll see.
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oh, that’s what you were reading or watching. Do you recommend it then? I can get it on audible for a decent price
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I checked it out of the library where I get most of my books. I use an ecard and read them on my device. Public libraries offer digital reads now on various platforms like Overdrive (most popular). You can read them on your laptop, phone or whatever digital reader device. You prolly know that. I’m not aware of any film about it.
I do highly recommend it because it exposes all the climate change options we have that are not being addressed and why they’re not being addressed. I feel that it’s urgent information for all of us.
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I think this is a brilliant idea. However, I’m not sure how many people that use a straw would find it appealing.
I like it so I guess that makes one us.
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Oh I can see a lot of problems with that thing… first of all, it’s disgusting. 
Uncleanable.
The next thing is, plastic straws just go this really bad rep because of the pictures of the sea turtle with one in the nose. 
In reality straws are just the tiny tip of the iceberg. The tons of other stuff is what I’d concentrate on, mainly packaging and short life products. 
This is just another way to tell people what to do and getting them to have a bad conscience about something while producing more plastic than ever before.
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added some flowers to make it look a bit less moody
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The company gets good reviews. Everyone seems to be happy with their purchases.
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Dayum, BI, are you in a foul mood today 
? Seriously, I agree that a lot more needs to be done but the company uses it’s proceeds to clean up a pound of ocean junk per every $25 spent. They also sell other reusable stuff like sandwich bags, etc. The problem with people is that they are too lazy to clean anything and prefer to toss their plastic cups, straws, bags et al. If they didn’t have the option of plastic everything anymore it will force them into washing and reusing…like their ancestors did 
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Apologies for the mood 
I agree, there is something good behind that thing but seriously, what’s wrong with drinking something - here it comes - without a straw?
And again, OK, people are lazy bastards sometimes but it is the industry that enables lazy people to piss on the environment.
So please tell me what difference a few of those metal straws make to the sea turtles if on the other hand more and more plastic (useable one single time before it becomes problematic rubbish) is getting produced?
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I saw photos of plastic straws floating in a huge garbage island, along with all the other plastic crap. I couldn’t believe how many there were, geezus. I think the straws are for the convenience of driving or walking and drinking. But you’re right, they’re not a necessity. And I agree again, it’s the industry that encourages it because they make money from it. It’s up to us to give them the finger and stop playing into their enabling. I actually wash out plastic ziplocks and reuse them. Also the plastic vegetable bags but honestly, I should start using my own vegetable bags. I know they make them now. Ha ha, I’ll bring a pillow case.
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@Dan_the_Man All the great info you and others posted above? I finished False Alarm and looked for Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock but had to place on hold. I did find his book that precedes that called Fingerprints of the Gods and got hooked on the first page. Fascinating!
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Too bad we can barcode EVERYTHING. Not just milk jugs, cereal boxes, but infused bar codes. I saw the chart above, from who is dumping into the oceans the most, and it’s about time THEY (or we as applicable) start PAYING the price. We’ll clean it up for you if we have to, but YOU will pay us, with fines, penalties, interest.
There seems to be a real, “Ahhh, just dump it, who’ll know” kinda attitude, and probably growing. I can’t say how much of the problem is straws, but I’m sure they’re IN there.
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That’s it exactly. Have you seen the coverage on that? The supposed recycling that we have/don’t have? We ship tons of plastic crap to whoever says they’ll recycle it for us, like Thailand or somewhere. They take our money and dump it in the ocean 
But really, we should take care of our own crap (and stop lying to the American people about our recycling programs). Our recycling program is called Pass the Buck.
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John Oliver has a great segment on our “recycling” efforts. Bottom line…it sucks and hardly makes a dent in our efforts to conserve, even with the packaging that is recyclable. When I watched it, it just made me sad because of the misinformation and mis-perception coming from the packaging industry.
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As well as local governments and activist groups. I remember back in the mid 90s when I was living in Somerville we were forced by the city to separate our trash for recycling or face weekly fines. I’m sure almost none of it was recycled but it probably made a lot of self-righteous pricks feel good about themselves.
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When I moved to Colorado from LA in 93, I asked about separate recycling containers for glass and plastic. The city I lived in said they were available…at an EXTRA CHARGE. I thought…what…I am going to do the extra work to separate out my recyclables (which I was used to doing) and you are going to charge me extra for that. I passed. I couldn’t stop shaking my head.
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