Coronavirus

@anon84779643
He’s trying. If this continues he’s a shoe in for re-election. Biden knows it too. It’s a shame it had to be like this though.

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@fidalgo_vapes
At least you’re given the option.that’s the important part.

After watching today’s CV Press Conf. I noticed there was little mention of reopening the the US for biz. He must be watching the polls.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/489920-poll-trumps-approval-on-coronavirus-drops-after-calls-to-reopen

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I did not see the funny little dr dude either :crazy_face:

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I paused the press conf. until a little later, but so far it looks like a solo act.

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(Yahoo News, March 27, 2020):

8 strains of the coronavirus are circling the globe. Here’s what clues they’re giving scientists

The article references this web-site/page: https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Different symptoms, same strains

COVID-19 hits people differently, with some feeling only slightly under the weather for a day, others flat on their backs sick for two weeks and about 15% hospitalized. Currently, an estimated 1% of those infected die. The rate varies greatly by country and experts say it is likely tied to testing rates rather than actual mortality.

Chiu says it appears unlikely the differences are related to people being infected with different strains of the virus. “The current virus strains are still fundamentally very similar to each other,” he said.

The COVID-19 virus does not mutate very fast. It does so eight to 10 times more slowly than the influenza virus, said Anderson, making its evolution rate similar to other coronaviruses such as Ebola, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).

It’s also not expected to spontaneously evolve into a form more deadly than it already is to humans. The SARS-CoV-2 is so good at transmitting itself between human hosts, said Andersen, it is under no evolutionary pressure to evolve.

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The various hypotheses surrounding the evolutionary origins of viruses is quite interesting.

One article (in “The Conversation”, 2018):

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Now this is interesting:

It’s … not expected to spontaneously evolve into a form more deadly than it already is to humans. The SARS-CoV-2 is so good at transmitting itself between human hosts, said Andersen, it is under no evolutionary pressure to evolve.

I can envision that relative virus “toxicity” would probably not increase - because more toxic mutated-variants would tend to be decomposed along with its deceased hosts, leaving the less toxic mutated-variants to further propagate within a host (“substrate”) population(s).

Does the above (quoted) statement about “evolutionary pressure” imply that a decreasing amount of circulating SARS CoV-2 Antigen (the microbe itself) within a host (“substrate”) population(s) would somehow cause mutations toward more non-toxic mutated-variants ? That seems counter-intuitive - as those (so affected) hosts would be more likely to expire (and obscure the microbial antigen)

On the other hand, mutating to a less toxic form would only seem to enhance the microbe’s existence in various suitable hosts. Thus, the “evolutionary pressure” would be uni-polar, progressing towards less toxic mutated-variants. (Sort of like a) “socialization” process.

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(Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March, 13, 2020):

Black plague, Spanish flu, smallpox: All hold lessons for coronavirus

I see the US has broken the 100,000 mark for confirmed CV cases. Some say we might have been here for a while, but since we recently started testing like we should have much earlier, it’s now confirmed. They also state this could have been prevented if the virus was taken seriously from the start.

No More Talk Of An Easter Deadline!

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(The Verge, March 27, 2020): … recent research done around the world showing that people with mild or no symptoms could be driving outbreaks. Studies show that they have high levels of the virus in their noses and throats and that people appear to be more infectious earlier in the course of their illness before significant symptoms may have developed. COVID-19 is an unusual illness in that respect. When the virus first appeared, experts - including Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases - stressed that asymptomatic cases haven’t been the main driver in other outbreaks of respiratory diseases.

Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/27/21197195/washington-nursing-home-coronavirus-test-asymptomatic-king-county

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(New York Times, March 25, 2020): “Can You Become Immune to the Coronavirus?

… a qualified yes, with some significant unknowns. … antibodies to the coronaviruses that cause the common cold persist for just one to three years - and that may be true of their new cousin as well. … Most people who became infected during the SARS epidemic - that virus is a close cousin of the new coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2 - had long-term immunity lasting eight to 10 years … Those who recovered from MERS, another coronavirus, saw much shorter-term protection …

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(Slate, March 27, 2020): The Key Stat in the NY Times’ Piece About Losing Your Sense of Smell Was Wrong - Anosmia and coronavirus might be connected, but we just don’t have good data yet

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It is clear that Trump has no federal authority (under the current situation, thankfully ! ) to impinge upon the “states’ rights” that his tea-bag sycophants and devotees claim to be so sacred. The (non-advisory, and actually jurisdictional) limitations placed upon persons and business activities has been exclusively directed by state governors and/or local government officials. (Therefore), Trump’s phony histrionics are nothing but the usual “shiny-object-distraction nothing-burger”. His goal is to “play the optimist”, all the while attempting to project blame and scorn upon others for the costs, suffering, death that mean little to him as compared to his own narcisso-centric financial and political fortunes. The “emperor” has no soul.


Source: https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/shutterstock_149250752.jpg

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(CNN, March 28, 2020):
Fact check: Trump makes another round of misstatements during coronavirus briefing

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Better Living Through Science

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woah… no one else caught this???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-e2-80-99s-chief-brexit-negotiator-barnier-says-he-has-coronavirus/ar-BB11p48X

some sites say bs… others say this is not happening… whats up?

Since this thread has derailed so many times…

Plot twist… lets see what you all have to say on this one:

“This scheme essentially merges the Fed and Treasury into one organization. So, meet your new Fed chairman, Donald J. Trump.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-cure-risks-being-worse-110052807.html

note: some say this is a lie, others do not… :slight_smile:

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@Pro_Vapes this isn’t directed towards you in any way but the reporter of this article:

Ok, like this is real??? Without some sort of treatment we should start handing out arsenic or something like that to people. “Unprecedented” just as the disease is. China’s beginning to see a 2nd wave of this. Imagine what NYC’s going to be like if they start getting hammered by something like that.

We’re close to (if not over) spending 20% of what this year’s US GNP and it’s only the 4th month into the year. We need some sort of “all clear” for some of the rural areas for them to start. In Virginia, even the rural communities (really rural) have this disease showing up.

They don’t have enough masks for Nurses and Dr’s. Nitrile gloves? If we don’t start getting some medical supplies stocked up for people this is only a stall in a broader infection of the country.

It’s just my humble opinion. We need an “all clear” in rural areas. If we can get that, some of America can get back to work. I’m imagining a run on the banks by small businesses for loans ASAP.

I know we all want to get back to work but I don’t want to see parents bringing this home to their children because we didn’t wait long enough to be prepared. “Make sure you take some rubbers with you” is going to take on a new meaning from this point on.

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And each time you thought it was the last time you were in awe of this disease…

How long do you think it will be when people like Bill Gates etc… start showing signs of this disease? We have public figures getting it now. We’ll see how protected the ultra high classes stay isolated.

Just curious.

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@Pro_Vapes
Sounds to me like this lady needs to stop reporting the news and see what she can do to make ventilators or masks???

This was right after it:

This, from a man who isn’t reporting the news but trying to explain how deep this rabbit hole really is.

It’'s a PANDEMIC LADY not a vacation.

@Mikser
They’ll need power, water, and I’m sure they don’t have stockpiles of food. Bringing that stuff in exposes them. When Bill Gates starts speaking 6 weeks, That begins go get pretty lengthy.

Maybe after this we’re going to see a lot more survivalist mega rich people lmao.

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