Coronavirus

(April 13, 2020):

SARS-CoV-2: Olfaction, Brain Infection, and
the Urgent Need for Clinical Samples Allowing Earlier Virus Detection

Brain infection in COVID-19 patients is currently being seriously considered because of many reports of neurological impairments such as stroke, epilepsy ,and encephalitis. The ACE2 expression in glia and in neurons in the brain is low but also well documented. But the specific sites where SARS-CoV-2 enters the brain are not clearly identified.8 Mature olfactory neurons present in the OE are probably one such place. However, SARS-CoV-2 virus must first invade high ACE2-expressing yet unidentified non-neuronal OE cells and then pass to low-ACE2-expressing mature ORNs to be finally transported along olfactory axons to the brain. A good candidate for such cells is specialized glia known as olfactory ensheathing cells (OECs). OECs were previously shown to enhance human herpesvirus-6 replication and accumulation in the OE before virus infected the brain.9 Many studies have already shown that this type of glia cells can supply axons with macromolecules by way of exosomes and this could be a mechanism of ACE2-independent virus transfer from OEC to ORN axons.

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Rather than “textbook curves” of neatly “peaked” projections, it looks like a steady “plateau” worldwide:

Source (April 23, 2020): https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200423-sitrep-94-covid-19.pdf

Such incidence behavior (despite measures being taken) would not bode very favorably for the future.

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https://covidtracking.com/data/state/georgia

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(World Health Organization, April 23, 2020):

'Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19 - Scientific Brief

Nothing surprising found. Have posted a number of reference-links to research and clinical reports regarding the complicated (requiring significant time and reliable patient-data to accurately discern) subjects surrounding human immunity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen exposures. There is nothing simple and straightforward about this stuff. I would rather know what they do not know, than to hear things they are unsure about. Not that easy to criticize such humble declarations of “not knowing”. We are “in the dark”.

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Not unusual for a Virus infecting the lungs to be capable of re-infecting persons. Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) is nearly as common as is Influenza infection (in the Winter months around January in the northern Hemisphere). Significant, lasting immunity is not formed. People can be readily re-infected.

Wikipedia information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_orthopneumovirus

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(New Scientist, March 25, 2020):

Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet -
We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19
induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus

“You can be infected with other coronaviruses over and over. We don’t know if that’s true for this virus”

@muth
I am so sorry about you losing someone you know. As for my respirator, I bought 2 1/2 mask 3M respirators with P100 filters for this. I wasn’t kidding when I asked the question. I spent probably $200 on those just in case this was going to be that bad. I don’t go anywhere without wearing an N95 mask, mechanics nitrile gloves, hand sanitizer (just to do the gloves once I’m done at the store or if I need to touch my face).

I also purchased safety goggles to wear (I didn’t go brazen and get the old science lab ones but I did get semi stylish medical over-spray ones). I got 2 UVC lights to sterilize everything, and ordered another 50 KF94 masks (Korean infectious protective masks and primarily because I couldn’t afford N95’s anymore). All in all, I’ve spent about 1k just for PPE. I work at people’s houses. I’m not going to risk my health on a dish rag.

I am sorry for your loss. Understand I wasn’t joking about what you quoted me as saying:

I meant it. I’m sorry if you got the wrong impression.

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Stop!!! I can’t have anymore tea running from my nose!!! I need a new keyboard as it is!!! :laughing: :rofl: :joy:

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All that “Spot” really wants to do is be friends with you, Brother Doug (when either supine, or prone).


Spot, a four-legged robot, is being tested at Boston’s B&W Hospital as a way to treat COVID-19 patients
:clown_face:

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@Raven-Knightly
Just stay away from the suburbanites ok??? Even with your damn dog!!! :rofl: :laughing: :rofl: :laughing:

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All that “Spot” dreams of every night while recharging is, “flashing his ever burgeoning firmware”. :hot_face:

It’s almost time for another “Clorox Enema”, Doug. Doctor Hydroxy always doth know best ! :wink:

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OMG!!! I see we’ve chased off everyone again… Must have been the firmware???

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More likely the egregious flaunting of “flabware” - an intermediate level between “hard” and “firm”. :face_with_monocle:

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Dear brother Raven…
Sounds like a Windows 10 upgrade… Failure to install the drivers lmao
Hard drive failure???

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Doctor Comer, I take it that you have “boned up” on all of the seminal research papers that I linked-to ?

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Touche’, touche’
I have been weighted, measured and found lacking :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Please, then, perhaps restrict your Lazy Susan of discussion subjects only to “pure” conspiracies ! :mask:

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@daath that is a very interesting site, with quite a few great graphs.

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I get this bad feeling that this was a dry run for something worse in the future. I still think that the stock market is slowly going to readjust itself. I highly doubt that our GNP is going to stay the same. China made for the best Target to have this done they are very engaged with the Western world so they’re not really going to take much overhit for this

They’re already hunting for a reason to call it natural causes. They’re going to have to find something like that in order for everything to get back to hunky dory with China again. The ultra-rich are to vested in China’s economy. The amount of people they employ is probably very impressive.

We’ll just have to wait and see what the fallout from this is.

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Interesting. With all the people complaining about non-COVID deaths being registered as COVID deaths - someone tried to figure something out:

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(New York Magazine, April 26, 2020):

We Still Don’t Know How the Coronavirus Is Killing Us

Early in the epidemic, the coronavirus was seen as a variant of a familiar family of disease, not a mysterious ailment, however infectious and concerning. But while uncertainties at the population level confuse and frustrate public-health officials, unsure when and in what form to shift gears out of lockdowns, the disease has proved just as mercurial at the clinical level, with doctors revising their understanding of COVID-19’s basic pattern and weaponry - indeed often revising that understanding in different directions at once. The clinical shape of the disease, long presumed to be a relatively predictable respiratory infection, is getting less clear by the week. Lately, it seems, by the day. As Carl Zimmer, probably the country’s most respected science journalist, asked virologists in a tweet last week, “is there any other virus out there that is this weird in terms of its range of symptoms?”

The most bedeviling confusion has arisen around the relationship of the disease to breathing, lung function, and oxygenation levels in the blood - typically, for a respiratory illness, a quite predictable relationship. But for weeks now, front-line doctors have been expressing confusion that so many coronavirus patients were registering lethally low blood-oxygenation levels while still appearing, by almost any vernacular measure, pretty okay. It’s one reason they’ve begun rethinking the initial clinical focus on ventilators, which are generally recommended when patients oxygenation falls below a certain level, but seemed, after a few weeks, of unclear benefit to COVID-19 patients, who may have done better, doctors began to suggest, on lesser or different forms of oxygen support. For a while, ventilators were seen so much as the essential tool in treating life-threatening coronavirus that shortages (and the president’s unwillingness to invoke the Defense Production Act to manufacture them quickly) became a scandal. But 80 percent of New York patients put on ventilators died. In China, the figure was 86%.

“One month ago, as the country went into lockdown to prepare for the first wave of coronavirus cases, many doctors felt confident that they knew what they were dealing with. Based on early reports, covid-19 appeared to be a standard variety respiratory virus, albeit a very contagious and lethal one with no vaccine and no treatment. But they’ve since become increasingly convinced that covid-19 attacks not only the lungs, but also the kidneys, heart, intestines, liver and brain”.

“Despite the more than 1,000 papers now spilling into journals and onto preprint servers every week,” … “a clear picture is elusive, as the virus acts like no pathogen humanity has ever seen.”

It’s not unheard of, of course, for a disease to express itself in complicated or hard-to-parse ways, attacking or undermining the functioning of a variety of organs. And it’s common, as researchers and doctors scramble to map the shape of a new disease, for their understanding to evolve quite quickly. But the degree to which doctors and scientists are, still, feeling their way, as though blindfolded, toward a true picture of the disease cautions against any sense that things have stabilized, given that our knowledge of the disease hasn’t even stabilized. Perhaps more importantly, it’s a reminder that the coronavirus pandemic is not just a public-health crisis but a scientific one as well. And that as deep as it may feel we are into the coronavirus, with tens of thousands dead and literally billions in … lockdown, we are still in the very early stages, when each new finding seems as likely to cloud or complicate our understanding of the coronavirus as it is to clarify it. Instead, confidence gives way to uncertainty.