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@Caped_Conspirathist I use the 501 for all my critical mixing, and when I have larger than it’s limit, I switch up to the bigger brother:

Unless I’m making a mega batch, I pour all VG/PG in specifically @LiquidBarn’s bottles:

I can’t remember if it was @Dan_the_Man or not, but someone recommended this little bugger for quick mixing, and I’ve used it all the way up to 480ml batches with nothing but success:

https://www.amazon.com/Norpro-Cordless-Mini-Mixer-Piece/dp/B000E39LYO/

All flavors are dropped out of their original MFG bottles, OR, if they are inferior, I pull them into (including MF flavors):

https://dropperbottles.com/collections/boston-round-plastic-bottles/products/pet-crystal-clear-boston-round-child-resistant-100-count

They ONLY syringe I use, is for my NIC, which lives in the freezer:

https://riversupplyco.com/products/blunt-tip-needles

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@SessionDrummer ,OMG!!! I’m going shopping!!! TYTYTYTYTYTY!!!

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@Caped_Conspirathist TRUST ME, when I say, mixing by anything other than weight, is a chore. I guess you had to see it first hand, i.e. syringes, to experience it.

Doesn’t mean people who mix like that are wrong, it just means they are bound by all of the hassles that other methods require.

Great scale is better, but even an average scale is going to remove the shackles that other methods always include.

What do I do when I mix @Caped_Conspirathist:

  1. Syringe NIC in.
  2. Pour pour PG/VG
  3. Drop all flavors by weight.
  4. Mix/Stir/Shake.
  5. Drink beer with all the free time I just got back BY mixing by weight.
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Well, don’t let me or anyone else dictate what YOU should use, or do brother. You asked specifically what I use, and there you have it, all cards on the table. I mix (typically, but not limited to) 5ml - 500ml with no issues. Flavorah, Medicine Flower, et al and nothing in my current setup slows me down, or holds me back. LOL, because I’m not even mixing product in the quantity that @woftam is, but I can churn out consistent product all day long with the above equipment.

Hopefully some of the above will help you out as well.

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In defense of the syringe mixers out there (I am a weight mixer BTW), I will say that if you dedicate a syringe to each flavor, keeping it clean and capped between uses of course, then syringe mixing isn’t too bad- just get your concentrate and its’ married syringe and you’re good. I had that explained to me long ago when I complained about the total PIA and extra work syringe mixing was, right after I switched to weight. It makes sense to have a syringe for each, and that would be easier and less hassle. However, I’m not going back now. I’m happy and comfortable with meting right out of the bottle and using ml’s.

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@SessionDrummer, I’ve been getting the premixed 30/70 from LNW. I also have PG and VG separate too. Nic went up. It was $20 something, now its $34. damn!!! I’m on amazon now. Man, I hope this starts saving money sometime? oh well, at least its not smoking cigarettes and smelling like crap.

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@anon70102222 I just want it to be easier and less chance of screwing it up.

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Well, a lot of that’s on you. Easy is what you make it. And screwing up isn’t the fault of a method. :wink:

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Just watch out for the pre-mixed base as it can make hitting certain mixes hard if not impossible. BUT, if you are just mixing for yourself, OR, you are always mixing for the same VG/PG mix, then you’re fine.

I tried pre-mixed, but I started having to mix 70v/30p, and 70p/30v and others inbetween, and I had to move over to straight PG, and VG sources.

Yeah well, if you even remotely concerned about NIC price increases, you may want to buy a big bottle, break it down, and keep it on ice, JUST in case. Not sure what the future holds.

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That’s an interesting approach @anon70102222. Approximately how many syringes do you have in use at any one time ?

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@anon70102222 I know. I still have a lot of learning to do.

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Just one. For nic. I see you don’t read my posts either. I’m used to it. :full_moon_with_face:

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Sure it will @Caped_Conspirathist. It’s always the way it is. The initial investment. Once you get your scale, mixing bottles, syringes all set, you just keep using them. Buying PG/VG/NIC in bulk (as well as flavors you KNOW you are going to use) also saves a LOT of money. NEVER buy a NEW flavor in a big bottle, because you may hate it. Try small, then BUY big once you know you’ll use it. Seriously cuts down on your price per ml.

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LOL @anon70102222 you said you mixed by weight, but you also mentioned the above, married syringe method, I couldn’t tell if you were using both, or one or the other.

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@SessionDrummer, I have done that now for 2 of my favorites and thats it so far. I’m still working on flavors. Eventually I’m hoping to get it all down.

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Someone explained that to me after I got the scale and converted.

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@SessionDrummer, are the Boston round bottles plastic?

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Well that WOULD eliminate the need for constantly cleaning syringes. I’m just trying to visualize a stack of married syringes, and the quantity required. I do see the value in it, or at least trying to make that method easier.

When I was syringing, I only had like 5, and it was a constant battle to use, rinse thoroughly, move on to other flavors, etc.

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As a way to get off cigarettes it can be pretty cheap. As a hobby it can get expensive as hell. :rofl:

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@mstokens … I’m beginning to realize that lmao. I just want to start making flavors I think would be good.

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