I’ve been in touch with Ivory at MF about those, and there’s some good news and some bad news
The good news is that MF will always give you free samples with your order if you ask! Also, you can ask for specific flavours , but whether you get exactly what you want or not depends on what’s in stock. And it might or might not be the 3.75ml bottles.
Accordingly . I ordered 7 X 15 ml flavours during their last promotion, and made a list of flavours that I’d like to sample if available. As a result, I I got three of the 3,75 ml sample size bottles with my order so I’m pretty damned pleased. That came to ten MF flavours for about £130 (including postage) , my best MF haul ever…even though the damned Inland Revenue hit me for VAT and handling charges on top of that. (At least they didn’t hit me for Import Duty as well, this time, cos I was careful to keep the total price below £135)
I was wondering if MF might consider offer a 5ml size (like ECX) ? but here’s Ivory’s reply to that:
At this time we don’t have a smaller size, in most cases it is fitting all the information on the label. The smaller samples can be done as they are just a sample, but anything for sale needs to have certain label requirements which makes this difficult.
Further to that, she said that no vendor should be offering the 3.75 ml sample size for sale, as they are not designed for sale and are provided gratis by MF. So now we know.
Update about Botanic Elixir (Don’t panic! It’s good news!)
I was a bit concerned to notice that the BE concentrates have been going out-of-stock, one by one. at Vapour Depot and not being replaced. It’s down to just 10 flavours out of 30, at present. so I wrote to Tony and asked if they are discontinuing them? and if not, when might we expect a re-stock?
Here’s the answer:
We are 100% not discontinuing the range, stock has been low as we have been in the process of creating some new juice ranges and they actually contain those concentrates so we’ve taken them out of stock while we work on the recipes. We will be putting them all back into stock with new batches as we finish the recipes so over the next 6-8 weeks you should see them all appear again
Also, whilst I was at it , I asked how much postage to the USA would cost? as one or two Americans have wondered how ecomomical or not it might be for them to order the BE, taking account of postage. On reflection, I decided not to ask about every country on the globe, but to keep it simple chuckle , figuring postage to other countries would be proportional.
Here’s the answer to that question:
US postage is actually affordable. £4 is an untracked service or £8 for a fully tracked regardless of package size on both and should take around 5-7 working days.
UPDATE: A bit more good news from Tony at Vapour Depot:
I’ve added rebottling on to our list of future endeavours for you!
Yes, folks, he means rebottling MF concentrates into smaller sizes!
And, also in response to a point I raised about the recommended starting % :
As we work with more of the flavours, we’ll be adding recommended steeping times and more realistic starting percentages (I pity anyone who attempts to vape coffee before at least a month!).
Re a convo @jay210 and I had on the introductions post, I’ve just been in touch with Vapour Depot asking about the (lack of) availability of Botanics Elixir, they confess they’ve been lacking a little but are “hoping to change that in the next couple of weeks”. They also asked if there was anything I was specifically after, so I thought I’d mention this to you all, as if there’s a few of us after the same flavours it might be that it seems a little more worthwhile diluting a batch.
Hey, thanks
Wild Honey springs to mind as a must-have in this range, IMO This one really needs to be used in diluted form, as the neat MF is way too strong.
I guess Dark chocolate has to be a winner, too. And Wild Raspberry. Can’t say I’ll be buying those two , though , because I have them in undiluted MF now, but they are two MF flavours that people consistently rave about, so ought to be popular
Steer clear of Green Apple. It’s too damned weak. I was having to use it at 20% to get some real flavour out of it :(. Also steer clear of the Rasperry (non-wild) . The damned stuff scorches, in my experience
Sorry for delayed reply. Took my eye off the ball for a few days.
Yep, talking Botanic Elixir (in reply to a question from @BikesAndBacon) . I was very disappointed by that one. Didn’t think I’d need to go quite that high. Maybe an old batch? shrugs). But, anyhow, anything that needs in excess of 1% MF, would be rather too dilute in BE form, IMO.
Ah. Gotta admit it’s an awsome flavour. Spot on. But by the time you’ve faffed around finding the right %, your little bottle of BE is all gone . So i’d say that if anybody really likes green apple, it’s best to jump right in deep end with the pure MF on that one. Can’t imagine it disappointing. I mean, not as a flavour. (Just the dilution disappoints)
Anonymiss has put up all the open source vapor recipes which they published when they shut down due to FDA - they do use 6 or 10% Ultra-distilled Penta water rather than PG so you may find a few in there you like.
Personally, I found her OSV archives long ago, but that is definitely very useful info for anybody experimenting with MF.
Oh! and thanks also to Anonymiss , if she’s listening? That was a really amazing thing to do, preserving the OSV recipes like that. It’s the sort of thing that you really hope that somebody will trouble to do. And then you’re (well me, i mean, of course) gratefully surprised to find that somebody actually has.
. So i’d say that if anybody really likes green apple, it’s best to jump right in deep end with the pure MF on that one. Can’t imagine it disappointing. I mean, not as a flavour. (Just the dilution disappoints)