Medicine Flower Tasting Notes

[jay210]

Btw, I let slip on another thread that I’ve had a new consignment of MF flavours (no less than 10!) Some are tried-and-trusted already and some are entirely new to me (eg Cantaloupe, cucumber and that famous vanilla at last!) . However I haven’t even got around to adding them all to my stash, let alone testing. Too many other things on mind at present.

But, to show willing let’s add a few overdue notes on some of my older MF purchases

Wild Raspberry (MF)

Self-quote from the recipe side:

If you’re going to get one Rasberry, get this one! I’ve never had the natural Wild Raspberry fruit , so can’t really comment on authenticity . I expected it would be more tart than MF’s normal raspberry, but tastes sweeter to me, tastier and better all round. And importantly, the flavour isn’t liable to scorching like the other MF raspberry. It’s just exactly what raspberry should be , IMO.

ofc, its implicit in that the normal Raspberry (MF) really isn’t up to scratch. Others have noted that it’s very weak (i agree) . and also it’s lacking in sweetness, but the biggest problem with it, IMO is the aforementioned scorching. That;'s very coil-dependant tperhaps but I found that had to really watch the wattage with that one, or else it did a Sauvignon Blanc (MF) on me . That stuff can really ruin a mix!

…OMFG that reminds me that I’ve had some Cabernet Sauvignon (MF) steeping for about 2 months and not yet tasted it! How useless am I? No wonder I’m running out of bottles. I’m particularly intersted in that one, cos nobody else has posted about it yet (that i can find) . Hopefully, I’ll pull my finger out, locate the bottle, and offer an opinion on it soon.

Strawberry (MF)

I don;t know if yet another review of Strawberry is needed? But here goes. Yes , it’s very, very natural , as you’d expect of MF, and to my tastes surprisingly sweet (given that other reviewers made much of the tart notes.) But that might be because I’m mixing in VG?

I was forewarned, so I’m not too disappointed that I’m having to mix this at at least 1.5% to get some decent flavour . I’ll probably settle round 2%. like many others. That makes it rather more excpensive than most of the non-concentrated brands, and a lot more expensive than RFSC. Is it worth it? I think yes! cos it’s bloody gogeous, and you could waste a whole lot of money trying and failing to get such a natural flavour.

I think that paired with Wild Raspberry, this will be fantastic Must try that! .just gotta do a shedload of tasting and wash out my mixing bottles first

OK, I’m out of puff now, Might add some more notes later.

[jay210]

OK, so here’s another natural pairing of MF flavours

Lemon (MF)

No need for me to wax lyrical about this one, cos others can do that more elequently, and indeed they have! If you check out the ratings overhere you’ll see that everybody’s given it five stars. Me, I did a terrible thing when first I opened this bottle. I spilled it all over my hand! Was I crushed? Well, actually I was too intoxicated by the heavenly scent of lemons wafting up to be that upset by the wastage, which happily turned out to not near as bad as I thought from the scent.

Seems to me this is actually better than fresh lemons. But how is that possible? Heck, I must have a crap greengrocer. But ummm, I’m waxing lyrical after all, aren’t I?

What I really wanted to say is that I’ve tried this all the way up to 1% as a top note, and I don’t see any actual need as such to go higher than that., but still, I’m intrigued by @Pentine 's experiment., and if he can find the ceiling for this flavour, well, then I might have a go at banging my head against said ceiling. How’s it going, @Pentine?

I’d also like to mention , this is one of the few flavours that MF supply with a closed cap; the pippette enclosed seperately in a little plastic bag, the reason being that these flavours are espeially volatile, I believe? That being so, I think it’s wise to continue store it with the closed cap on, even though it’s a faff washing out the pipette…or it would be a faff if I actually used it. To my thinking, i might as well use an 1ml syringe instead, in that case, and get a more accurate measurement than my scales can offer, along with much smaller drops than you get from the glass pipette. So that’s what I actually do. Call it penance for that dramatic spillage

Honey, Wildflower (MF) / Wild Honey (Botanic Elixir)

Actually, I haven’t tried the pure MF version of this one, and I don’t intend to get it , not unless the BE supplies dry up, because this is pretty powerful stuff, and I 've not yet seen any need to go above 3% BE , which would be equivalent 0.3% MF. At that strength , it’s easier to use the dlutions, and, what’s more, I don’t see myself using up a whole 15ml any time soon. So that makes the BE more ecomomical unless I open a juice factory.

As a natural sweetener, this has it’s limitations ofc, because honey has it’s own distinctive taste which doern’t go with eveything (cream and honey in your coffee, anyone?) but where it works, it works beautifully . eg in Honey and Lemon *big grin * . or should I say Lemon and Honey? (Actually I think we should say Lemon and Honey , but nobody else does , so I’ll bow to convention for a change )

Now, here’s a curious thing: I’ve read that the other MF honey, that is Honey, Acacia (MF) has overbearing floral notes, which put some people off it. I can’t directly compare the two, because I’ve only tried the Wildflower, but I cam say that I’m not getting any strong floral notes from this one, in spite of the name having that red-flag word “flower” in it. Hmm. well, that makes sense when you think that wild flowers are not so strongly scrented as cultivated flowers after all. Or it might be that my taste buds are out-of-whack of course. I wouldn’t trust them, not if I were you (nor even if i were me, as I am ) I’m not even a honey buff, just someody who finds honey handy on occasion, but sickly when over-used. I’m much more likely to reach for the brown sugar when preparing food, But anyways, as somebody who finds real honey handy. on occasion, I must say I’m finding Wild honey even handier . And it tastes just like honey, in my humble opinion. Without the flowers.

Try it with the lemon. Your taste buds will love you…I think

[Pentine]

It still tasted good up to 1.2% but the 1.5% tasted a bit odd as I think my cotton was old. Will redo the 1.5% soon, am messing with sickly high %’s of FLV lemonade at the moment. 10% FLV lemonade starts to taste like pumpkin, fyi…

[SessionDrummer]

Thanks @jay210.

[netweight]

Any notes for mf Pineapple or any opinions about it at all? Im about to reup on my sweet rice from ecx and they still have some pineapple left

[jay210]

White Cherry (MF)

I’ve been looking around to see what other people have to say about this. Somewhat perplexcingly, I find it’s all good, just as I vaguely recalled, I think this quote might be kinda telling.

@alanwolfe

white cherry has a lovely almost spiced/mulled quality, my favorite of their cherries

I think that might actually represent a positive spin on the very thing that’s driving me nuts about this flavour.

For my own part, i’m just not getting along with this one, at least not yet .But at £22 a throw, you’ve got to give a flavour a very fair chance, haven’t you? So this isn’t my final word on this flavour, just my thoughts thus far,

The worst part was when i first opened the bottle, some months ago. My nostrils were assaulted by such a stench of decay (at least that’s how my brain interpreted it ) that i hunted round the kitchen to try to find what the heck had gone off? After realising that it really was the scent my latest little treasure from MF ,well, I felt really nervous of tasting this one, like you would. But I mixed up a couple of SF tests at 0.5% and 1% , nonetheless. Then I screwed the top back on as quickly as I could

Next I let them sit in a drawer for 3 months, taking a cautious little sniff at intervals, Still couldn’t bring myself to taste them . But then i’ve heard of magical things happening to some MF flavours at the 3 month mark, They suddenly shine like they never shone before so it;'s said. . So, surely it’s got to be now or never, right?

Meh, let’s go to three and half months, to be on the safe side.

Done And? Well, at 0.5 % it doesn’t really have much flavour. Doesn;t assault, nor tantalise, not really sure what I’m vaping. At 1%, that first inhale is really weird: overwhelmingly tart, almost citrussy, with no particular, recognisable flavour. And so is the second, come to that, and the third…it never really changes, in fact, I’m just getting more used to it.

The exhale is interesting: a definite cherry taste here, sweeter, but with that sickly sweetness of a bruised fruit beginning to turn to alcohol. And then I’m left with am actually rather pleasant cherry aftertaste in my mouth.

I find this inriguing enough tojust natually carry on vaping and vaping the stuff, with no need to force myself. So it’s clealy not half as dreadful as I feared it might be. But still, I do feel dissastisfied and disappointed. . Then I try mixing it with strawberry, just because, and get a whole new version of the "no particular flavour " thing. The cherry totally dominates the mix , so it’s hard to taste the stawberry, while the stawberry mellows out the cherry , so it loses it’s tartness… but stll doesn’t taste much like cherry. Ah well. I wasn’nt expecting great things of that combination, but I’m beginning to think this could actually be rather good in the right conmbination. Maybe, if I mix it with my beloved Black Cherry (MF) that will turn out to be really awesome? or maybe it won;t, but I’ll definitely try that ; also I think I’ll definitely try @alanwolfe 's suggestion of mixing it with Red Apple (MF) to get a cider taste, Any further suggestions, guys? .

[fidalgo_vapes]

i was lucky enough to have a great person here on ELR send me some samples of things they had so i didnt have to worry about giving the white cherry a chance … and thankfully your notes will keep me further away from it , but that black cherry sound like a winner ???

[jay210]

Hey! don’t be too swayed by my notes. I’ve been at pains to point out that everybody else seems to love that flavour! And me, I’ve come around a little bit. Not rteady to give up on it (though i probably would if it wasn;t MF *chuckle * )

Yep, Black Cherry is a personal favourite of mine, only problem being it takes a hellova long time to steep, even as compared to the MF average. I just can’t imagine anybody being disappointed by that one, just so long as they have the requisite patience, But then, taste is subjective, right?

P. S. Oh! I’m envious . But now we’ve got that mermbers map, I’m a teeny bit hopeful of finding a MedicineFlower Head in Britain to swap samples with.

[Mandrax]

I mixed the white cherry in 1% and after 2 months of maturation, I find a very real taste and pleasant, a sweet cherry and at the same time sour, but again, the taste is subjective … now I am tempted to mix the dark chocolate MF with the cherry and see what it will give.

[jay210]

Ooh! that’s a nice idea. Now I’m tempted to mix Black Cherry (MF) , White Cherry(MF). Dark Chocolate (MF) and Rum (MF) to see if i can get a nice cherry chocolate liqueur.
Hmm, I’d prefer cognac,over rum but MF don’t make a cognac (damn them!) and I’m just not ready to make another a bulk order from some other USA company, ATM.

[NChris]

This sounds really good. Keep us posted if you do create this.

[jay210]

Sure will! I think I’m almost certain to try that, but probably not right away, because I’ve had an inconvenient notice of repossesion from my landlady,.

No, no, no! It’s not what you’re thinking…that I spent all my rent money on MF . I think she just wants to put students in my house instead of me, cos students make better cash-cows (arguably)

Anyways , mixing is not, at present, the uppermost thing on my “to-do” list , as you can no doubt imagine.

[NChris]

Sure…I bet you have every MF concentrate in 30 mls now. Lol

[atssec97]

@Sprkslfly

I think there’s segments to the journey, and given that, I think it’s a good thing people start off with the likes of TFA, FW, then move into FA, Cap, RF, then Inawera & FLV, and finally MF.
(I realize there’s some overlap in categories there, and I took some out of order myself. BUT, as a general rule, it’s much easier to fully appreciate what each level brings, not to mention the noticeably different percentages, if you’ve climbed that ladder from the “bottom up”. Each rung has it’s own importances/relevance IMO.)

As someone at the bottom of the ladder looking up and admiring the leaders at the top, I wanted to thank you for this comment! Kinda slapped me in the face and reminded me that I have so very much to learn!

[Sprkslfly]

@atssec97

As someone at the bottom of the ladder looking up and admiring the leaders at the top, I wanted to thank you for this comment!

Well, it’s a very kind sentiment! And I appreciate it. But please bear in mind, I’m only one man, with one opinion. And I’ll likely always be a newbie to those who came before me, just like many who follow “my class” will always be a newbie to many others.

We all share the same goal though! And that’s finding combinations we enjoy. Some enjoy the process/journey (learning the art of mixing), and others just want to pick up enough to “get by” on.

Regardless of the road chosen, the true beauty of ELR forums rests in the participants IMO. There’s so many varied influences and taste preferences, and points of view, that it’s damned near impossible to NOT find a “matching pair of helping hands” to take guidance and inspiration from!

@atssec97

Kinda slapped me in the face and reminded me that I have so very much to learn!

Most of us do! But just try and soak it all up! We’re all at various points in the journey!
There’s some really wonderful talent, and friendly, generous souls here, who make/take time to share their experiences!

Take what you can, where you can, and pay it forward when you can, but try not to rush it! (Though it’s difficult in the excitement sometimes! lol)

[nicomanteno]

How about Almond anybody have a suggestion or starting point, likes, dislikes? mixing suggestions?

[Plunderdrum]

Following this. I just got their Almond in recently and haven’t mixed with or tested it yet.

[nicomanteno]

I was thinking again for a bolster for other flavors here at maybe a drop or 3 in a 30ml to boost light flavors like cherry maybe I have no Idea were to start with this one but it will be low 1-2 drops per 10ml., and I have also found with some other MF flavors steep time is a major difference for a full flavor, Because I mostly mix higher VG levels.

[SessionDrummer]

After having a basket of flavors in the cart, going back and forth over “is it worth the money” (even though they’re stronger) arguments, hit the go button. Morello Cherry, Cucumber, Honeydew Mellon, Strawberry, Wild Raspberry, and asked for samples of Plum and Fig. Can’t wait to try them. I appreciate the notes above in aiding to that decision.

[anon44944642]

They tossed in a Morello Cherry sample. It’s not ready to try yet but it smells like typical black cherry; I wasn’t initially impressed anyway. But that is not a final opinion at all, just a sniffy-test observation. It may end up making me question all I think I know about reality, who knows.