Man, I’ve got 18 flavors in my cart at Nic River.
A touch of rich cinnamon sounds like it might go well with the bread pudding.
Man, I’ve got 18 flavors in my cart at Nic River.
A touch of rich cinnamon sounds like it might go well with the bread pudding.
Yes, but only a smidge.
Breakfast Pastry (River Supply) 3% (2-15-20) – Getting near the end of batch 1 on these, and Breakfast Pastry is on deck. This one immediately hit me with a nice, even, smooth creamy bakery of sorts, but I couldn’t really identify it. Actually pretty good and strong (full) at 3%, but continued vaping just left it fairly blurry. Trying to think back on other BP’s that I’ve tried, and most had more focus. This, although good, and not overly sweet, just came across as a sweet, creamy, bakery-ish vape. Despite repeated vapes, I couldn’t clarify it much more than that. Now does blurry nec. mean bad ?? Not always, and it’s not a bad vape, just a good UNCLEAR vape if that makes sense. For it’s overall good tastes, we’ll leave it at 6.5/10.
Lemonade (River Supply) 3% (2-15-20) – LAST ONE, in this series !! Having just tested River Supply’s Lemon Lime Soda, I know this is in there. This is a bit more laid back, maybe a tad cleaner/clearer in it’s simplified Lemonade form. @ 3% it was slightly laid back, might be able to go higher, but it didn’t leave you wanting even at 3 %. The lemons were full, yet bright, sour yet sweet, which left it as a very juicy, even keeled Lemonade. It tasted more like a natural version with occasional hints of artificial. While there was some tart in here, it wasn’t heavy handed, and in comparison it fell right between FLV’s and LA’s versions. For a nice clean lemonade with punchy lemons, some tart, some sweet, that works @ 3% this one, gets it done. 9.4/10.
Series 1 complete !!! Lots of good ones this go round, and my must haves in this series were:
Bread Pudding
Boysenberry Pie
SB Milk
Cola Freeze
Mixing Series 2.
Flavor Description from Manufacturer: Delectable Boysenberry Pie that is nothing short of fantastic!
Suggested dilution ratio per River Supply: 2% - 3%
Percentage Used: 8% Yes you read that right. Then diluted to 4%. Then remixed at 3%.
Equipment Used: Innokin AJAX 0.16ohm PLEX3D Matrix Coil vaped at 50W.
PG/VG: 30/70
Steep Time: 7 Days
Aroma: Dark berries, cookie, sweetness.
Flavor Description: Tastes like a berry pie. Not the best I’ve had, but not the worst either. The first thing hitting my tastebuds is a nice sweet jammy dark berry filling. I can’t specifically taste boysenberry though. It’s in there. But it tastes more of a generic dark berry mix to me. Like boysenberry, marionberry, blackberry? The problem for me is I’m not getting any occasional tart notes at all. Usually that light tart bite tells the story of the berry, and it’s missing here. The berries are very evenly sweetened, and does make a decent pie filling. The crust follows behind the filling, as to be expected. I’m actually getting the crust nicely balanced with the fruit, I don’t have to go searching for it. I’m not sure if I’m having a sensitivity to some chemical in there, but it is kind of like cardboard. I will say that there was a HUGE difference with a longer steep. It developed and settled in quite a bit. It’s hard to describe, but to me the crust tastes like an unsalted soda cracker mixed with a little graham cracker with a sprinkling of baking powder on top. Dry. It needs butter and moisture. And some sweetness to the crust itself, the fruit is plenty sweet, but the crust is missing any butter or sugar. Now, the percentage mixed made a huge difference. At 4% the crust was not too bad. At 3% it was better. At 8% it was unbearable…ugh.
Off Flavors: Very slight cardboard.
Throat Hit: 2/10
Pairings: Other boysenberries to add depth, butter, ice cream, whipped cream. Butter or butter cream to flesh out the crust. A buttery and sweet cookie or cake would probably fix that crust right up.
Notes: Ok, let’s talk about the skeleton in the closet. Yes, I mixed this at 8%. Yes, I vaped it at 8%. NO, you REALLY don’t want to experience that I was mixing other SF testers and forgot to drop the percentage down again before mixing this. So the notes are going to be based on the much more reasonable 3-4% test range. This is a fairly complete flavor and would make a decent (not fantastic) but decent single flavor mix for those looking for simple, fast, and easy. Or even just something vapeable while you are learning to mix and need something to get you through. However, again let me say the crust became much better after a longer steep, and sticking in the 2-3% range of mixing is important in this one or the crust makes it unvapeable for me. I am enjoying it SF at 3% right now, but I honestly think 2% might get rid of the cardboard completely.
OMG @MysticRose, at first I thought you were kidding. I found it quite powerful @ 3%. Love reading all of your notes.
WF Caramel Butter is amazing. I don’t really get butter either, just decadent caramel.
Flavor Description from Manufacturer: This dessert flavor can be mixed with fruits and other pastries to make any concoction creamy and savory.
Suggested dilution ratio per manufacturer: 2% - 3%
Percentage Used: 4%
Equipment Used: Uwell Crown 3 UN2 .23ohm Meshed Coil at 60W.
PG/VG: 30/70
Steep Time: 7 Days
Aroma: Bread, vanilla, custard souffle.
Flavor Description: I have actually been avoiding this one for days. Not because it’s bad, but because it’s so complex and complete I’m having a hard time doing the usual breakdown of flavors. Bread is up front and center to be expected, with just the slightest hint of crust. It’s been transformed into a delicious dessert though. I’m getting warm vanilla and creamy butter. It’s a perfect blend of egg and cream that creates a custard souffle type body to it that is sooooo yummy. It’s very cohesive in that it is a bread pudding, no egg flavor distracting from it or pulling it too far into a custard, yet still gives that rich and moist dense pudding. I’m not getting cinnamon from it, which I usually look for in bread pudding, but it’s not missed as this is such a full bodied dessert without it.
Off Flavors: Occasional hints of too much crust for the first 7-10, then it’s steeped out.
Throat Hit: 1/10
Pairings: This is more like what can’t you put with it. I’ve got some with butter cinnamon steeping right now. But any type of sauce you’d like just for a variety of desserts. Caramels, toffees, aged bourbon cream, butter pecan, whipped cream, any cream, vanillas, nuts. Stone fruits, apple, banana, the only fruit I might wonder about working would be citrus?
Notes: I preferred this mixed at 4% for a SF, even though recommended is 2-3%. I will be using it more in the 1.5-3% range in mixes. And I honestly will say I think for me this is probably the most complete single flavor vape I’ve tried. It’s very complex and the bread pudding I’ve been searching for. I can honestly say I vape it and don’t say in my head I need to add a little of this or that. Now that doesn’t mean I don’t think of all the different ways I will be trying this yumminess. Starting with the butter cinnamon, then some french vanilla, then some ice cream or whipped cream, aged bourbon cream, then some horned toffee sauce or some bananas foster. I’m going to try some different versions of cinnamons, and some cheesecake for some cream cheese pudding. Then some maple and fruits for some french toast. I finally found my bread pudding, and I can and will continue to ADV this at 4% by itself. But I do think my excited and enthusiasm for playing with this one is showing
Bread Pudding (River Supply) 3% (3-1-20) – Having just tested RSC’s Sugar Crunch, this one was very similar, but less pronounced. @ 3% it was very full, and tasty. It did not present as deliciously thick as the Sugar Crunch, but still fared very well. With all the usual suspects present, bread, egg, cream, sugar, with a little spice, which might have been raisins, but unsure. No butter or syrup so this is not a french toaster. I cannot NOT continue to compare this to the Sugar Crunch as they are so similar. A little bit lighter, and with a slight spice, which I kept thinking might be raisins, but it’s just outside of being recognized. As a BP this one is quite good, and would only require minor boosting to really make it shine. Nothing off-putting, and was really good at this percentage. Because it didn’t have the one-two punch that the Sugar Crunch had, will take it down a notch or so, but even at that, a great one to get and play with. Leaving this at 7.2/10.
Sugar Crunch (River Supply) 3% (3-1-20) – Yummy McYummy on THIS one. Well this one was a nice thick and rich one off the start. Incredibly full @ 3%, with a creamy richness, and a just right amount of sweet. It presented as fairly complex, and wandered around during this tankful. A real medley of things going on here with nothing off putting, harsh, or otherwise detrimental to the experience. At times it leaned towards a french toast-ish, others back to more of a sweet, creamy bread, very interesting. Def. had a fair amount of bread, and at times the crust seemed to pop out a bit. There were quite a few elements in there, and swimming in very nice harmony without becoming a blurry mix. I could actually see push/pulling this one in quite a few directions very easily if needed. Continued vaping, revealed more wow from me, and this WAS going to be one of my favs from this first batch. While no real cinnamon or raisin elements were present, it could very easily be push/pulled, and was super delicious at this level, and could easily be considered a solo ADV. Finishing the tank, I still cannot find fault with this one. Just a perfect blend of bread, egg, butter, cream, and some vanilla spice, that really supports what it’s called. Handily a 10/10.
My apologies, as my samples for Sugar Crunch and Bread Pudding had been inverted. Corrected all review data.
Red Sour Cherry (River Supply) 3% (3-1-20) – I don’t know why it’s soo difficult to get a GREAT Cherry vape, but it must be, because I’m scared every time I try a new one LOL. OK, here goes. All in all, this one was NOT poison, soapy, perfumy, or heavily medicinal, which was a huge PLUS already. It presented as a semi sour/sweet, darker cherry. NOW, every once in a while at this percentage, I did get an off note or two, maybe almost medicinal, but it was fleeting. It came and went occasionally, BUT, was not present during the entire vape. I don’t think this was evidence of hitting the ceiling on this flavor as it was about mid strength at 3%, and I almost was left wanting MORE Cherry during the testing session. Even with the aforementioned occasional peek-a-boo notes, it stayed fairly consistent, and cherry like throughout the entire tank, and it was fairly laid back (as I would like my cherry), and I wish it was more forward. Not bright, not dark, but leaned dark, and the sweetness being mid to low on the scale, paired up nicely with the sour, as both were lower in the mix, yet equal. As if often the case, this one will require some pushing to get it to go where most will want it to go, but, it can be done. For the occasional medicinal notes, kicking it down a few, and the somewhat laid back mid level intensity of this one. Nice Cherry overall, but as usual, will take some work. 6.5/10.
Damnit @SessionDrummer. I MUST RESIST…I WILL RESIST!!! No more flavors.
So I’m confused now…Is the Sugar Crunch basically a yummy bread pudding like the bread pudding was except on steroids? I saw the changes you made to your original BP review, so I’m caught up there. Is the Sugar Crunch basically a BASE bakery flavor that can be turned into anything, ie danish, coffee cake, bread pudding, french toast, custard, etc?
I’ll have to go read about it, I haven’t heard of this one…sounds soooooooooo good though
But definitely one I DON’T NEED. No sireee bob, not me…lol
I like that Sugar Crunch too, seems to be something that if used low enough can really help boost cake and bakery recipes. I really need to get back to using it more, sort of forgot it.
Thanks for the review and reminder brother
@MysticRose Not exactly, but my labels got switched on the two bottles, and I caught it. The BP is good, but a bit more relaxed, and not as full or forward, with a bit of extra spice (but not much). The SC on the other hand IS very similar with quite a bit of bread, and far more full, and in your face.
Coconut (River Supply) 3% (3-1-20) – Running near the end of this 2nd batch on RSC’s flavors had me taking this one on. In a nutshell it was a very nice Coconut, BUT, with an almost astringent like finish note. I don’t think this note was caused by overflavoring, but part of the actual compounds themselves. Not sure if it was enough to ruin this one, but it was def. present, at least at 3%. Semi creamy, with mid to low sweetness and a 50/50 mix between artificial / natural on this one. I’d be curious to hear what others think of the astringent off note I was getting on this one. Did not have any heavy, or greasy notes as a few coconuts have. As I had seen mentioned elsewhere, probably NOT the main coconut note you’ll want, but could def. use it to add to one. Judiciously placing this one @ 6/10.
Granola (River Supply) 3% (3-1-20) – What IS Granola ?? Oats, honey, brown sugar, nuts, maybe raisins ?? How does one come up with a Granola flavor ?? Let’s see. As a sum of the ingredients, this one did seem to favor a Granola. It can be hard to quantify exactly, but the oats and the brown sugar presented nicely, and although I didn’t get any honey, it did work well as it was named. I also couldn’t verify any raisin, but it could still be in there, lower in the mix, adding to the overall G. @ 3% it was full and tasty, and I couldn’t find any off notes throughout the test. Sweetness was low and that allowed for even more chain vaping (testing) LOL. This one could maybe be boosted with a smidge more of Brown Sugar, and just a TOUCH of Honey, but even as is, very tasty. I can’t remember vaping a specific Granola vape, but I’ve vaped quite a few flavors that had a G in them, and this one would fit the bill, and work nicely doing it. If you are in need of a Granola, this one will probably do it for you. 9.0/10.
I can very much appreciate that Rose.