Never crossed my mind. A fail is a fail in my book. When mixing for other people this can cost you dearly.
Not everyone vape the same and some I mix for are very slow vapers and the mix faded and was returned. I really have to know a mix last over time.
I have a SB base that will. I initially thought I found the holy grail of SBs with SB SC. It just didn’t work out. But TBH I haven’t heard anyone say the TPA or CAP faded over time. They just need some support to be a solid SB note.
Supporting flavors…correct. So why ditch the RF SC SB instead of backing it with others…Do you feel it would fade even with supporting flavors? This brings into question a sort of Mixer Philosophy. A thread ive been wanting to start. My theory is that some flavors bring only a high note others low notes and some merely act as the middle of the road, body of the mix. I believe this is why layering is so effective. Low notes supported by other low notes or high notes supported by other complementary high notes may not fade as they would, if mixed alone, but together they combine…
I haven’t ditched it yet. I’m testing just adding it near the end of the steep and making smaller batches so I don’t have them around as long. I won’t purchase it again as my base is nearly identical in flavor with no fading issue.
This doesn’t solve the fading issue. Believe me, I really love the flavor of the SB SC, but I hate it’s just a temporary flavor. Once it fades it’s a whole different mix.
How far (% wise) have you pushed the strawberry in an attempt to counteract the fading? Have you found if you push it too high, it mutes or has any off taste?
@Chrispdx
Sorry, crispy! Lol sorry I just always think that when I take a quick glance at your name. High and low, I hardly find any good taste to the RF Watermelon. Maybe it just doesn’t agree with my taste buds. I enjoy candy watermelons much more but still am searching for that rindless, true to watermelon taste. It is a very elusive flavor… I have INW on the way to see how I like it, RF just didn’t agree with me, personally.
If a flavor holds up for 6 weeks, then fade to no existence in the mix, then I personally don’t see the need to over flavor from the start if it’s not going to be stable throughout the life of the mix. It’s like that mix will be constantly changing over time and it just not worth it to me. Find something that works.
Flavor fading is a new issue for me. I’ve had some mixes around for 6-8 months with no issue, so 6 weeks seems a very short life for a flavor.
@Walt_RealFlavors himself has stated they use PDO in some flavors, so I’m not surprised some of these flavors fade. These aren’t strictly vaping flavors, but some are stable and hold up well over time… just not all of them.
Yes! This is so true! I like to layer my strawberry flavors with acai and raspberry. I usually use more than 1 strawberry and then add 0.2-0.4% acai or Raspberry. It seems to add to the strawberry and helps with flavor fade.
Sorry I haven’t opened the bottle of it as of yet, I was hoping it was similar to Melon Medley (SC) in it’s make up but with a Watermelon taste, but from the notes I’ve read from others, it isn’t.
@Chrispdx do you have an actual recipe worked up for that comment of… [quote=“Chrispdx, post:73, topic:139196”]
But I mixed with dragonfruit tpa strawberry FA, cucumber FA, marshmallow FA. Cucumber to fix the rind, mallow to adjust the sweet. Dragon and SB to fix the red.
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Or were you just mixing things up a bit?
I did plan on mixing up my PB Sugar Cookie and thought I’d like to try a to mix up a nice fruit mix.
Rind, rind, rind!!!
As many have noted the rind is right up front. I don’t find it unpleasant at all but as I seek the sweeter and elusive mix I’m chasing, this one won’t do. Even layered with a sweeter watermelon and a watermelon candy, the rind sits right on your tongue and rubs it’s butt all over it. I still like this flavor and think it can be used in many applications. Just don’t expect sweet
I am definitely with you on that! What is the sweetest and least rindy/ candy like watermelon you have found? After eating real watermelon this past week I am chasing the real deal.
I think there ia a watermelon thread and I will try to find it for you. I have only 3
Watermelon Candy
Watermelon
Both of those are TPA and I use them both in the same mix to get my desired effect.
The other is the RF and even at low percentages I can taste the rind but I think my mind is looking for it.
Actually, I think the watermelon thread I was looking for, you have already seen.
Watermellon MyWay
This is version 4.
This last adjustment was due to an odd note (can’t explain) at 13mls into vaping. 1-10mls is as good and I started picking up another note.
Steep for three weeks cap on. The below I am mixing today.
Watermelon RF Sc 2.5%
Watermelon FA 1.65%
Cucumber FA 0.25%
Fresh cream FA 0.25
Marshmallow FA 1%
Dragon fruit tpa 1%
Strawberry FA 0.75%
Personally I think @Walt_RealFlavors could up the red part of this Concentrate and create a rind free red candy watermelon (you would see a billion bottles if you did it just right). I do like the “natural” aspect you get from this.
Tagging @Pentine since we talked about it earlier in the thread.
i refrigerate all my flaves except the MF i cant seem to get a response from them 
This would be a wonderful idea, please do this @Walt_RealFlavors, I would buy it ALL!!!
More red, less rind. Scratch that, all red NO rind!
@fidalgo_vapes
I refrigerate only my RF and MF. Why don’t you keep your MF in the fridge? In my mind, the more realistic extract would need more preservation.
@Ken_O_Where posted about refrigerating the MFs a while ago. He recommended it for extending the life of MF extracts.
Well, I promised. Don’t mind the mess, and don’t take any of the brands that we don’t carry as hints. This is just where we like to mix at work, and this is mostly our personal stashes. 
Lol. How do you even find a flavor? Or do you just do Russian roulette mixing. Grab a random 5 flavors and just go for it? Dang it…I should have done that today when I mixed.
i did refrigerate at first then around the cap i got some kind of build up , i guess after that i wanted to see what manufacturer said since they were a little spendy , i do think that using refer keeps flavors a lot longer though
Did they ever get back to you about refrigerating them/ what the buildup was?
