SugarDaddy Sweetener has been highjacked

Wolf in sheep’s clothing

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It’s a tight knit community, a lot of names here in Canada you’ll see often and most are good but some are terrible (looking at you Sammy Fog), sadly, with the state of vaping in Canada and Everything else for that matter. Vaping and even DIY are under attack by the liberal government and probably the other guys as well, tin foil hat time, it’s population control - why would we allow you to have something proven stop the habit that will generate revenue for both the health and tobacco industries who in turn provide us with our living?

Anyways, I figure the owner for TBV knows well enough business is under threat of being shut down as the totalitarian regime moves in, he may sell flavours but his name is attached to the V in TBV and that’ll mean he will likely be shut down and any chances to sell flavourings will be denied. Make your money, burn your bridges and move onto the next thing, straight arm 45 degree angle to the sky, “HEIL TRUDEAU”. The Broke Smoker, Coming to a cigarette store near you.

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That’s how it’s listed on Chef’s website.

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Hi…
It’s hard to say exactly what time period it was changed out. what you have may be the original but I can’t say for sure
This change of recipe occured about 2 years ago without my knowledge.

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Yes…I am referencing The Broke Vapor

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I agree with your comment about legalities.

About the “What you’ve read” about SugarDaddy…
Everyone has their opinion. There are haters and there are lovers for SugarDaddy Sweetener.
It’s like Cap super sweet…some are devoted on it…some can’t stand it.
I find the only true way to know is to try it and keep an opened mind on it’s possibilities.
Most negative comments are based on their knowledge and experience of the usage of the other sweeteners.
Remember…this is VG based. It’s not the same as PG sweeteners.
Totally diferent concept on usage.

Also, when I first introduced SugarDaddy I explicitly informed ppl that adjustments to their already created mixes that use other sweeteners will need to be adjusted.
You can;t just add a diferent sweetener on an already created mix and expect the same outcome. even a standalone mix will have a diferent taste each time if using a different sweetener on each standalone.
Yes it has a slight muting effect…but I never hid that from anyone. I said this on the first day.

It’s VG based. lol

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I totally agree with what you’re saying Joel.
I could of started a business way back in the day. I had the connections and resources but I knew it wasn’t going to last.
The Gov don’t like it when ppl get healthy and live longer to cash in their pensions and lose kickbacks from Big Pharma.

I stayed away from this…
Again…I developed this sweetener for myself but was talked into putting it on the market…
I guess the bottom line is I don’t like to be made a fool of from anyone when I did nothing wrong.
My way of payback I guess.
Not it’s not about dick measuring.
lol

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I was out at my mother’s place and she was watching that Caroline Dennis show or whatever, blonde old chick on City TV and her guest was this Magical lady telling all the older people that Reverse Mortgages are the way to go… To sum it up if you haven’t heard about it, is that “We will pay you 55% of what your house was worth when you bought it and you qualify for that percentage in payments until you’re 75!”

audience claps

One single woman looking shocked…

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My mother’s house was 100k when she bought it 20 years ago, the town has grown and houses sell for closer to 200k now… Do the math. 55k over say, 15 years… That’ll be our house until you die!

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My mother go sick suddenly before christmas and spent 2 weeks in the hospital, magically doctors don’t know why or atleast don’t want to admit they don’t know why… So she figured she had to retire early, but the company she was with said you don’t get your package until 65… So she went without thousands of dollars and what used to take a couple weeks to get EI on the roll has taken over 5 months, her cards are maxed out… She doesn’t know what to do, the retirement plan she was on greatly increased into the 65 range and now she’s making about 1/3rd of what she would if she retired on time… That money still hasn’t come.

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Trying to keep the “Where Can I Buy It” details up to date …

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Hey @RWL_65 …, we could just purchase through you in the meantime…:thinking:… I’m thinking PP maybe??

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Sry to hear tht…, Shit sux nowadays

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Wait, so how long has this fake version been on the shelves at Chefs for?

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For a couple years, if my readings r right…

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At this point in time SD isn’t available. Not the Authentic …BUT… I am currently making up batches to send out to the stores I previously mentioned.

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Yes…
You can purchase it through me but not at this very minute. The batches I am making up are spoken for.
I can take orders mid next week…I can let you know when if you wish.

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You are correct St3V0…

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Well crap, that means that I’ve never actually used your sweetener which was highly recommended to me in the whole 12 months or more I’ve had of using a bottle so labelled, that’s really disappointing and i suspect the fake version was bought in cheaper than the real thing (if I’m right about that then the rets8lers must have smelled a rat but chose to accept it for the sake of margins) and I’ve therefore paid a premium for it.

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That seems to be the case.
He attempted to reduce the slight muting effect by removing 2 key ingredients that is absolutely necessary to get the chemical aftertaste out of the sweetener.
I don’t think he succeeded as I have a bottle of his sweetener here. I was out of my authentic blend and due to supply shortage I had to order a bottle from one of the stores that carry it. I noticed something was off but I just put it on the back burner.
First thing was his has a stronger cotton candy scent…so does SD but not to that potency…second was I got a slight aftertaste which SD should not have.
So your conclusion is correct…by removing those key ingredients he did bring the cost down and kept charging the same amount. I can’t be 100% sure though as I do not control that end. He Manufactured and distro’d so all sales went through him. I was the face of SD and pushed it out.
I did take a hiatus for a few years (personal) but he could of contacted me at anytime which he did not when he actually changed out the recipe. I never authorized it. He should of kept it as is.

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