Well, I guess no one knows better than you what a futile effort things can be from your experience with the flavor conventions. Try to help, explain why, and get nonsense and insults. Sometimes it’s not worth the trouble. If they are not willing to consider that their assumptions could be incorrect and/or offer some supporting facts for their arguments then you wind up shaking your head.
Where I try to start is by attempting to make sure that people know what homogenization is and what equipment is used to achieve a homogeneous mix. Silverson https://www.silverson.com/us/products/?wvideo=dv7o6fh79g is likely the world leader in high shear equipment and have a ton of short video’s that explain the processes and the equipment used for a multitude of processes. This includes closed system equipment where the possibility of aerating a mix is completely eliminated. Several video’s demonstrate that “conventional agitators” (stirrers) will not produce a homogeneous product and visually show why.
His statement is very likely incorrect.
What he is likely seeing are large commercial high shear mixers. I’ve referenced a tour of the Flavourart facility and was able to spot their high sheer equipment in huge batch tanks. Most would assume that they are stirrers. Nope.
Then there is his declaration that
We all take extreme measures to keep our nic in freezers and some even use argon to keep oxygen away from it to prevent oxidation. I’ve quoted Flavorah so many times its committed to memory though I was saying this long before they did publicly:
Flavorah’s recipe book informs:\
“much of what has become known as the “steeping” process by ejuice
makers is actually accelerated oxidation of the flavorings caused by
the addition of freebase nicotine……If nicotine is not added, this
undesirable oxidation does not occur and the initial flavoring
profile of the recipe will be maintained more consistently over time.”
So brother its a tough one to tackle. I’ve had such extreme resistance that I’ve tried to just let it lie. I now have well over 100 mixers using the GC and have honestly had some of the nicest comments I could have ever imagined.
Everyone knows @woftam . Simon makes a lot of juice and has some really nice overhead stirrers. I don’t think he would mind me saying that I introduced him to high shear mixing with the GC. He has since moved up to commercial sized high shear mixing equipment, some of which came from me. So this individual could read about Simon’s experience or for that matter, many other highly respected mixers.