A PUBLIC and Civil Discussion on the Rules

[tartarusspawn]

Here’s my 1 cent opinion.

Yes we dont need a new thread for things that have been asked before.

But we are adults and can kinda point new members towards the search function of the forums and the recipe side .

For example if someone asks how much nic shot fo add to get x amount of nic . answer them . and link them or show them the create recipe were you got the answer.

And if need be ask a mod to merge the thread.

Edit

Here the example thread i was using as an example

Calculation for PG, VG and nicotine

Hi, i want to make an 60ml liquid with 15ml flavor, 18mg/ml nicotine and with 50% PG / 50% VG. I have 70 ml of 20 mg/ml nicotine and 70ml of 38 mg/ml nicotine. How much PG,VG, and nicotine must i put to have the specific liquid?

[fidalgo_vapes]

@tartarusspawn

Here’s my 1 cent opinion.

Thats worth more than 1cent

[natbone]

Geez, people today are so fucking touchy.

[natbone]

Ok, you are over reacting here. You were asked a question and you respond like a teenager. The fact is that you do post a ton of stream of consciousness stuff. I believe that most of us don’t really care but for me your insecurity and constant pleads for reassurance is quite tiresome. You don’t have to pout and delete your threads, no one expects that. It is just an attention grabbing move due to your insecurities. Believe me, no one here is going to plead with you to stop deleting your posts.

We welcome new people here but there are expectations for behavior. If those are transgressed then people will be called out. The proper response would then be to acknowledge, apologize and then stop the errant behavior. Or you could just act like a petulant teenager, it’s your choice.

[Bad_Influence]

That’s what i meant, the absence of such discussions where we start getting angry or pissed off in some way for nothing.
I’m out of this discussion and will just keep ignoring what i think isn’t worth my attention. Hopefully it goes away
I know what you mean @natbone and I could give you plenty of examples where I got annoyed about someone but hey, it’s the internet and I think ELR is still one of the best forums around. Maybe because these discussions were never needed, who knows…

[tartarusspawn]

okay im home now .here is another 1 cent opinion

@ladycrooks

I am discouraged that is for sure.

don’t get discouraged
no one is trying to discourage you. just having a public and civil discussion. to be honest even i have had the same thought as @Sprkslfly. but then i think this is a new person give her some time. and maybe point her in the right direction of searching before asking . and i have even responded back to you with what your looking for and pointing out a simple search would have gotten you the answers you were looking for .

and honestly responses like this one to @SessionDrummer who is very knowledgeable

@ladycrooks

…well I had an quiestion about capsium about 30mins ago but I don’t have all day to look for the "proper " place to ask a quiestion for to be this obsessed over other ppls opinions. Cuz “wolves don’t lose sleep over the opinions of sheep!”

will kind of turn people off. when i saw that i was like wtf . Is she calling drummer a sheep?

okay that’s some of my thoughts i had earlier.

now moving on to everyone else that gets itchy and annoyed when they see threads started on some of the same topics over and over. remember these words of wit. posted in this thread

@anon44944642

I used to get itchy and annoyed when I would see threads started on some of the same topics over and over. As someone who’d been aboard a forum for a long time, it was easy for me to say “Find it yourself, for rack’s sake. All you have to do is search!!” But that was easy for me to say. I was staff, I’d been there forever, and I knew about everything I needed to about the forum and the subject.

But I think of it from a noob’s perspective. Often lost, often confused, often has no idea their question has been asked before, even to death. I don’t get mad anymore, unless it’s an obvious or blatant rule violation, or if the noob continues to ask after the answer has been clearly given, even if through a linked thread. And besides, acting gruffly toward a noob is not a way to foster the community spirit we keep talking about, and not a good way to induce more noobs to stay here and grow through their noobidity and become regulars, too.

I’m almost out of pennies but there’s two more. I can probably dig more out of the couch cushions though.

and that concludes my 2 cents . thou i might dig some out of the couch cushions later

[Lostmarbles]

Good points.
I’ve got a jar of pennies I need to get rid of. I’m trying my best to die penny-less. Let me know if you need any.

[SessionDrummer]

@fidalgo_vapes

I think for some newer members they dont realize the massive amount of kniwledge from the past and we should remind them there is a tool that will help and if it doesnt create a thread , the more we read what others have said the more we can pass on

Absolutely @fidalgo_vapes. While there are still pros here, there have/has been a MASSIVE amount of Pro Mixers who have posted, contributed, and taught here. Just massive, and like you said, the amount of excellent, FREE, good information that is already here, some of it posted BY them, still remains.

#BringBack @Pro_Vapes.

[SessionDrummer]

@tartarusspawn

But we are adults and can kinda point new members towards the search function of the forums and the recipe side .

Agreed @tartarusspawn, BUT, newer members have to respect that “pointing” without offense, AND, the “pointers” need to remember there ARE newer members here, who may NOT know. Two way street.

[SessionDrummer]

@natbone

Geez, people today are so fucking touchy.

[SessionDrummer]

@natbone

post a ton of stream of consciousness stuff.

@natbone I might have been guilty of that in the “beginning”.

I think one of the DANGERS of having repeat posts on identical topics, is the WORST thing on forums, is people can start to ignore them. These forums are not mine, but I"m a longtime member/contributor, but I have managed large forums before. I always preferred re=activating older threads, as then you ARE incorporating older, sometimes wiser info in WITH the new info.

[SessionDrummer]

@tartarusspawn

and honestly responses like this one to @SessionDrummer who is very knowledgeable

@ladycrooks

…well I had an quiestion about capsium about 30mins ago but I don’t have all day to look for the "proper " place to ask a quiestion for to be this obsessed over other ppls opinions. Cuz “wolves don’t lose sleep over the opinions of sheep!”

will kind of turn people off. when i saw that i was like wtf . Is she calling drummer a sheep?

Thank you very much @tartarusspawn, and I don’t really know what she was saying there. I routinely go out of my way to help anyone, and everyone here, and on other sites, and I’ve been doing it for a while …

[natbone]

I agree with that. I find that searches with too many results are off-putting. You are very helpful on these forums. You need a badge or something.

[SessionDrummer]

@natbone

You are very helpful on these forums. You need a badge or something.

Thanks very much for the kind words @natbone.
I probably have too many already, and the inner child in me wants to drop the #WeDontNeedNoStinkinBadges.

I think the most special one, allowed me to be included amongst this list of people,

[ladycrooks]

I never meant for this to go horribly wrong i apologize for getting ppl the wrong way.

[ladycrooks]

I wasn’t calling drummer a sheep at all I wasn’t referring to anyone just in general. You guys have got me all wrong

[ladycrooks]

Ok this has gotten a tiny bit out of hand im glad I haven’t completely ignored it yet. But I wasn’t calling anyone here a sheep. I meant in general there’s no need for it. I didn’t mean anything by it. Not at anyone on here. I don’t have anything bad to say about any of yous you’ve done nothing but help me.

[nicomanteno]

Don’t let it bother you.

[ladycrooks]

I just read it now after I had already apologized so I really don’t know what you mean.

[ladycrooks]

. Ive apologized theres not much more I can do. I will be more conscious about where I ask questions and search for an answer first. I have never even been part of a forum before this one and it is the best site I have been a part of and I hope all of you can accept my apology as I am very new at this and I never questioned anyone’s ability here I do know alot of you have been doing this a very long time and I am here to learn from all of you.