Can someone be allergic to PG

@100_VG it fits into small 10ml LDPE bottles with no problem.

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And how would I know any of that? I guess you mean to count the drops in a ml, then weight it? I guess my 10ml cylinder might be accurate enough for that? Either that, or maybe drip into a 3ml luer lock syringe with the needle removed and the hole blocked, so it doesnā€™t fill up the needle and then drip out of it? Tare either one and then weigh the 1ml in the cylinder or syringe? I think the 10ml cylinder might be easier for that.

Or can you suggest a better way? Maybe tare a bottle on the scale, then see how the individual drops add up? But I would have to start with an accurately measured 1ml for that, wouldnā€™t I? Guess I need some help with this, please.

I guess muth was wrong.

Thanks, Iā€™ll remember that. :+1: By anything, do you mean anything FLV, or Anything?

Thanks. Could you post it here, please?

OK, but what about his tasting single flavorings on the back of his hand after dripping into 10ml of microwaved VG, or using a frother when his 10ml bottles arenā€™t microwaved? Thatā€™s how he figures (or figured) his measurements. Or at least, his starting points for single flavorings. Sounds like you prefer the steeping method. Maybe do both, use his method, but also let some other 10mls steep? Just trying to learn the best way to do it. Thanks.

Absolutely, I am willing. With you and Pdrum on my side (and the others who join in now and then), I canā€™t go wrong. Thank you SmokyBlue! Thank you @Plunderdrum! And thank you @SessionDrummer!

Thanks!

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Try my site, now that I have my tutorials up. If you have more questions, just askā€¦ I do not mind going into more detail, but I hope a lot of my notes can help you out :slight_smile:

FlvFan Site

Flavorah. What I test from my lab, changes so nothing is stable.

I tried that before with my Solo Taste Testing thread. Itā€™s why I leave my tutorials on my siteā€¦ :slight_smile:

A lick to see what the flavored base is like, is just that. You can lick your juice, it wonā€™t kill youā€¦ but it is just a lick, itā€™s not vaping. It can give you an idea of the juice, but if youā€™d rather not lick, you donā€™t have to.

As far as microwaves, there is a note on that too, on my site. I donā€™t froth FLV as the molecules and compounds, along with your nic, really do not need to be beaten to hell, and allow air to be forced into a mix, as it distorts the taste of the juice. You are more than welcome to experiment on your own, but if you can at least be a semi-decent taste tester, you will notice a difference between frothed and not frothedā€¦ microwave or not.

More than welcome here :slight_smile:

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In All About Mixing Flavorah Flavorings, under Steep Guide, I see ā€œSNV or ~3 days,ā€ ā€œSNV or ~1 week,ā€ ā€œSNV or ~2 weeks,ā€ & ā€œSNV or Longer.ā€ What does SNV mean, please? Might be good if that acronym was spelled out somewhere in there. If it is, I didnā€™t see it, nor anything that looked like what SNV might stand for. Thanks.

So those flavorings are still in development stages?

Just read through that, too. Stopped after reading quite a few comments and replies.

Thanks. I was just curious. Iā€™ll do it your way, as in Solo Taste Testing. I havenā€™t ordered the frother yet, and now I wonā€™t have to. Do you agree with Christianā€™s 10ml VG microwave procedure, or just stick with the recommended steeping time in All About Mixing Flavorah Flavorings?

While I have you, for FLV Irish Cream in All About Mixing Flavorah Flavorings, it shows a Starting Mix Point (%) of 1.00%, but here, you told me to start low in testing at 0.12% and work my way up. Would you please explain the difference to me? Thatā€™s a pretty big difference.

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Shake and vapeā€¦ means you can vape it and vape it. I prefer to wait a few daysā€¦
I guess some need to vape immediately :wink: common termā€¦ found here on siteā€¦

if you read here:

You will find the link to the vaping abbreviations :slight_smile:

?? Flavorah is ready to use.
I work for a lab that creates flavors for a few industries, including vaping.

My response to this can be found here:

https://flvfan.com/steeping-ultra-concentrated-flavors-microwave/

Here I go:

The first rule of business is what? To make money. Flavorah has starting % amounts, and so does a few of the other companies. That is their starting points.

Your job is to find out on any flavor you purchase is:

Where you can start to taste, and where it tastes good to you. :slight_smile:
That way you get to know your flavors, andā€¦ you will know how a red apple might sit with say black tea.

Any flavor company has a job and that is to sell a product to make $.

Againā€¦ if you do your job, finding if you like a flavor, or where to mix it at, falls on youā€¦ they can only recommend as everyone tastes things different.

Hope this makes sense :slight_smile:

With ultras, start with 1-2 drops in 10ml and work up. it pays to do it early on in your flavor collecting so you do not bog yourself down. Take notes, and have a read thru my siteā€¦ link is above :slight_smile:

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What does that mean, Smoky?

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Each manufacture has a way of processing their flavoring. If you pay attention to what you are vapingā€¦ well noā€¦ not pay attention but it is more like an aftertaste. Every single manufacture has it, even Lorann :slight_smile:
Itā€™s something I can pick up in a juice.

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Thx, I get it. It might be what happens to me with some flavors/brands. Itā€™s frustrating when 10 people recommend a good flavor and it tastes funny to you. Maybe thatā€™s why?

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It depends on what you mean by funny, Muthā€¦
This is more of a background/after taste, does not effect the flavors taste at allā€¦

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Okay, this is what I mean. Sometimes I get what I call a chemical taste either as an after taste or along with the flavor. Thatā€™s the only way I can describe it and maybe thatā€™s something different but whatever it is I donā€™t like it. Sometimes it comes in the form of burnt, perfumey, flowery (when itā€™s not supposed to be a flower). Itā€™s not easy for me to describe that well.

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To me, that sounds like flavor pushing or over flavoring.
Like the caramel coffee you tried the other dayā€¦ gave you a bad tasteā€¦
You used way too much of it. That one needs 1-2 drops to try it out in at least a 30ml, with some time for it to steep.

Anytime you are getting off-tastes like that, check how much you are using.

btw, I can not even find it in the database, so hard for me to see who all else has used it and their amounts either. That should be a big tip off there :slight_smile:

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@Sprkslfly, do you know anything on the flavor: caramel coffee (SC)?
I canā€™t find it on site.

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@Rocky02852 says it tastes like crap, too. He pointed out to me where itā€™s in the flavor drop down menu. If that helps. He recommended the Cappuccino (SC) which we both like very much. I believe the percentages were similar.

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Probably because itā€™s sold as Caramel Mocha?

Not sure if thereā€™s anotherā€¦

In the ELR database, I found

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Well apparently not with the one you have. :stuck_out_tongue:
The SC can be potent.
If you have not tossed it outā€¦ give yourself a few months to recover, and try it with just 2 drops in 30ml.
You might end up liking it by then, if you are willing to play with your flavors. Wonā€™t know unless you try :slight_smile:

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@anon84779643 Correction: he pointed out the Cappuccino. The Caramel Mocha (SC) might be a new flavor, IIRC, and thatā€™s why not in the base.

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I dont think it is new, I could be wrong.
I thought I had it years back, to be honest.

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No, youā€™re right, Caramel Mocha. My mistake.

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ahhh nowā€¦ lolā€¦ go look on the flavor list and see what it says :slight_smile:

Your link:

doesnā€™t say how many users, but even 2.3% is too high for an ultra. :slight_smile:

I feel for that person that mixed it at 6.3% :stuck_out_tongue:

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The only flavors I throw out are ancient and past their prime, lol.

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