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I hope that, at least, those are numbers too low to concern them so they leave us alone.

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They won’t as we are a threat… not too big of a threat, but the monkey already opened the door to the genie inside and they will find that it will be harder to close the door.

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I don’t know but based on that it looks like they are more popular with the teens than Juul and it may well be price driven

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We should ban teens!!!

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If I am not mistaken… that vuse is not high nic either…

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It just seems as if the US has gone nuts all at once!!! OMG!!!

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85.27% of the problem but that said banning them would just increase the stats for the others I suspect.

Banning the sale from gas stations would have a massive effect on adults wanting to quit the answer lies with mandatory age checks and a strike against a place when they get 1 (or a number) of offences the penalty being it stops them selling both ends and analogue nicotine products.

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If only. But again, the government needs that analog revenue. Great thought though.

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So WTH are these kids dieing from??? If they’re adding CBD oil in with Vit E as a thickener then the vitamin E will kill you for sure. It’s so thick molecularly that it can’t penetrate simple squamous tissue!!! It’s like inhaling 30w compressor oil!

You’d think someone doing an autopsy would notice compressor oil lining their lungs??? You watch, kids will do this with the big tobacco products too. Then it will be the CBD oil’s fault. Certainly not big tobacco since it was fast tracked through the FDA

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Have you noticed, the deaths have not been on the news lately either… :wink:
Something for sure is up…

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Yes it’s that. And it’s also non-regulated THC pods that were manufactured by Joe Blow using who-knows-what, and using marijuana that failed inspection for use at licensed dispensaries.

That epidemic has “died off” so to speak with the light being shone on it, thankfully. The real epidemic now is the banning activities.

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That and I’ve never heard of vaping killing anyone. Heck, I never heard about vaping until my neighbors showed me 8 months ago. Something’s definitely up. I heard rumor that Mike Bloomburg’s involved. That man… OMG he thinks he’s a demigod!

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Search for “honey cut” or you can read the leafy article

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I have no idea what to do. To be honest, I think a lot of us are going to be smuggling… lol

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You’d think they would be doing mandatory age checks now? aren’t vaping products considered tobacco products now???

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Yes but the fda are so slow to send out enforcement letters (they are at least a year behind) that coupled with the fact that many of the gas stations DGAF means it is still happening.

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They have millions to spend on stupid videos they’re airing in prime time but no money for mystery shoppers to warn or close down businesses that sell to minors?
The consumer always has to pay for the bad functioning of government agencies… and they run away with your money for it. They’re just blowing up an issue that is essentially a non-issue.

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I think most folks were mad at JUUL because they felt Juul threw us under the bus with the flavor issue. I like you started with a MTL setup, but that was because a friend suggested it and it worked great for me so I guess I’m biased on that because it’s what helped me quit. I never understood how someone else needed a sub-ohm to quit smoking and you’ve opened my eyes on that by what you’ve said here about that. I always felt vape shops were pushing sub-ohms on people because the majority of e-liquid you can buy these days at shops is 70/30. I’m with whatever work to get someone off cigarettes too and I do hate they’ve made it illegal to “test” juice, devices, etc, because I hate to see someone drop money on a setup that doesn’t work for them.

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I send emails on a daily basis, but sitting down and talking with them and btw downloading information from the Heartland institute for your state helps. When I met with our senators chief of staff, I was blessed enough to have a friend that owns Higgy Cigs meet him with me, and he had that heartland info book and the man was seriously impressed because he knew that they were a reputable science organization and it wasn’t just some lady who vapes and a shop owner telling him the positives, he had real scientific evidence to look over that was hard to deny.

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@anon28032772, as someone said in an earlier post, “something’s afoot here” I think we all have a good idea who’s behind it too. The vaping community is a real minority however slim minorities have no real voice anymore over slim majorities. All the politicians who get elected today think they have a mandate from the people however, I was taught that it requires 60% or above in the popular vote to have a mandate.

Just because you marginally won an election should make you realize that a large part of who voted, voted for the other candidate…

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