Oh right 
Yeah it’s only the legal 420 and access to vape shops and sites make me wish so, since we’re already culturally course enough to the States, though yeah - after October maybe.
Start wishing I lived there then for the dispensaries:)
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Hopefully these flavours will be at least as good as TFA and the other known brands so I can start writing down mix percentages and flavour notes.
Got plenty of notebooks I found myself buying for no apparent reason just because I liked the idea of books filled with blank writing paper.
Certainly that last order from vapeking wasn’t strong enough or good enough to warrant writing about.
Except one: the Turkish blend tobacco was very nice - mild and caramel/nutty without any that ugly chemica/fake taste a lot of tobacco flavours have.
But even as nice as it is it was so weak you wouldn’t taste anything at the standard 3-5% q lot of better brands get mixed at.
I ended up adding almost the entire 30mL bottle to 70mL glycerine two weeks ago so it could steep however long until I decide to use it - rather than having it as a flavour in a bottle waiting to be used - and it’s still nowhere near overpowering - even @30% with no other flavours.
Should change the word ‘steep’ to ‘age’ since homogenization is more akin to steeping, but even with that I’m still quite sure that aging liquids benefits them.
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Many times as a kid I’d mix it with Condensed Milk in a glass. No regular Milk added.
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Overnight delivery…
Though, when I googled the post location it came from I saw why: I’m practically boddy sold the corner from VTA.
Check out out on google maps…
I’m the blue dot obviously… like one hour if that as the crow flies from VTA.
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Not a drop of leakage: in fact, the bottles are so clean they actually squeak when I handle them and to test thre quality of seal on the bottles I’ve used the Ac… fuck one day I’ll remember how to spell it… the Acetyl Pyrazine, since that’s so ridiculous smelly that’ll be the one who’s scent permeates the plastic.
Not even a trace of popcorn scent on the outside - no smell of anything.
Well, the slightest scent of sweetish cream, but that’s coming from the other bag and there’s like 6 different milk/custard/cream concentrates in there so I wouldn’t expect NO smell at all from all those bottles, especially sealed in a snap lock like they are.
Still, all the creamy-based bottles are squeaky clean too.
Now to the chemist - for empty bottles…
I am doubly stoked about this: not only are they efficient, they’re literally around the corner in the Western Suburbs and have enough of a range of different flavours that I might not need to rely on multiple sites or bottles from other brands being in and out and in and out of stock constantly.
I’ll shoot him an email to tell him he’s awesome and point out how local we are.
These aren’t exactly tasting notes, though I’ll get around to that eventually 
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Three chemists later, I get 10 of these for $1/each.
30mL - way bigger than I’ll be needing for the 5mL testing I’ll be doing but that was the smallest they had and the chemist was so hot I had to fight the urge to not just stand there mute like a ‘tard … staring at her all moon eyed while she was talking to me, which I managed by taking about the October ban on importation and asking whether she knows any more about how it’ll be ‘rolled out’ than the general public - being a chemist an’ all.
What is it about female pharmacists being so healthy and fit looking.
They had brown glass too, but glass breaks and these don’t.
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Right.
Finally home.
Now to resist the intrinsically strong urge to add a random amount of glycerine to a bottle before spraying different flavours in without any regard for measurements.
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LOVE LOVE LOVE the Pudding Base…
Super strong, and just tastes good: buttery, but not fake or nasty like the shit in Jam Monster - a lighter butter than that but also creamy and yeah hard to really find an every day comparison flavour because it’s unique to flavour concentrates, but it’s very, very good.
Happy I went with a 50mL bottle of that.
Matter of fact, if Jam Monster did use this instead of whatever crap they do for their butter, they wouldn’t have a fraction of the people complaining about how artificial it tastes, though I also recall Jam Monster Blueberry being SO high in sucralose that it had this additional, overbearing saccharine taste - god that an awful commercial juice.
One I’m very keen to take for a decent spin is the Barrel Oak concentrate, but I’m still trying to determine what exactly the Pudding Base compares to in real world foods and I cannot seem to find anything in my memory bank, which is alright though since @SessionDrummer has already written a comprehensive description of most these flavours.
It’s starting to remind me of a commercial juice I’ve had in the past though… I just can’t place which one… maybe Milkman Pudding actually, but minus the lemon.
First sniff from the bottle however I can say the Barrel Oak smells very much like vanilla essence, though I’m quite sure it won’t smell or taste like that once it’s mixed.
Wish I had some kind of tiny paint mixer with a dozen little slots for bottles in it…
Now for a honey and milk, to test both the Fresh Milk and Sweet Honey.
Already before I even started with notes and testing, I’ve mixed a hodgepodge juice with no measuring at all: just another few drops pg whatever flavour, shake & vape, try another few drops of another flavor etcetera, until I’ve arrived at a kinda banana pudding with honey and nuts.
There’s a good reason for this though: I need something nice to vape MORE than I need to fo SFTing at the moment so mixing anything from the VTA flavours is giving me a liquid that shots all over what I have been vaping last few weeks.
Also, mixing in such tiny amounts I’m using mere drops of flavorings while getting to know the flavours in a casual way before I start taking records and notes and being more controlled about it.
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I’m really chuffed for you mate and I wish you all the best with your mixing. VTA and Wonder Flavours have become my two favourite flavour houses and I seem to have more of their lines than any other brand, I still buy the essential must haves from other brands of course but Wonder Flavours and VTA seems to make the flavours that suit my tastes especially their bakery flavours. I was never much into fruits until I tried VTA Sugarloaf Pineapple after reading @SessionDrummer‘s review and I immediately fell in love with it, now I have quite a few different fruit flavours and enjoy them in my regular rotation.
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Yeah so far, of the 10 flavours I got there’s not one of them I’ve opened, smelled and thought "Yuck! There’s ten bucks I’m never getting back! 
"…
Course I’ve only just started actually trying them but there’s been nothing objectionable about any of them - nothing that strikes me as “off” at all.
I still don’t know what ordinary flavour or food could be used to reference Pudding Base but it’s just lovely - SO sweet and rich, which is pretty valuable in dessert juices, given its that richness that’s so good about them.
I too prefer dessert, bakery and creamy flavours because I’ve always found fruits to be too light and… fruity?
I dunno I think it’s yeah lack of richness in fruits I tend to not like about them.
Also I’m impressed with the service, which matters: nobody wants to get arsed around when buying anything online and we’ve all grown accustomed to “Amazon-fast” purchasing from good online stores, to the point that any business that fails to maintain that level of efficiency… well it irks me anyway.
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I’ve got it!!
Took me all night and it’s only now that I’ve mixed a little single flavour bottle of salts with VTA Pudding Base as the only flavour that I find my first memory probe was bang-on!..
THIS is the exact flavour of VTA Pudding base and I don’t know whether they bought the flavour from The Milkman Eliquids or the other way around but the only other maybe difference between this flavour concentrate and the commercial juice, is maybe some additional sweetener - I added 3 drops, but have no idea how much sweetener the commercial version contains.
But that is what Pudding Base tastes like, exactly.
Good job me.
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I realize that seems bizarrely simple - for the Milkman’s pudding to be so identical to a single flavour, but it is.
You’ve tasted Pudding Base @SessionDrummer: have you had commercial Milkman juice too?
Taste exactly the same.
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I could easily ADV Pudding Base as a single-flavour actually - it’s complex enough without being messy.
Especially with winter on the way 
Looooove winter: I’ve always been more a cold weather dood than a lover of heat.
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And that’s twice now I’ve heard good things about the Avocado Cream.
Might get that in the next order, even though my feelings toward Avocado are as bland as real Avocado tastes and I’ve read there’s not much Avocado in it, so I can just basically consider this another cream/milk/dairy to add to the layering huh?
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Gotta say too, even though the honey tastes like honey (maybe even a touch of floral in there though that’s very vague at the moment) and the milk is good with no weirdness or off-notes, I still dunno if I could say the milk is SUPER milky - I mean I can taste it fine, it’s great, but I always want MORE milky taste anytime there’s milk in a juice - even commercial juices.
I know also there’s plenty of creamy shit to layer-up any basic dairy so it’s richer/thicker/numnum but milk just seems to be one those flavours that’s more a mouthfeel/texture than an actual taste.
But then again, real milk itself isn’t exactly making taste-buds collapse under the weight of it’s flavour - much as I love milk, it’s a pretty mild flavour generally.
And I certainly DO love milk: I’ve heard of people who can’t or don’t drink it except in their coffee/tea and breakfast cereal… not me: I can drink myself sick on the shit and still love it as soon as there’s room in my stomach for more 
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Anyone tried their Black Tea?
I’ve still got a bottle of VG with Chai Tea II (TFA) I’ve never used because it was far too strong, though I could dilute it further: it’s been steeping for over two years now so if it was ever going to be smooth enough to use, it’s at that point and not gettin’ any smoother.
Another ancient mix that’s been in a bottle for a long time, but unlike the Tiramisu (TFA), which is very much like a very good coffee flavouring after a long time steeping, the Chai Tea always had a really sharp note that kinda irritated my throat a bit though I could imagine it being pretty damn nice if I dilute it considerably and throw enough cream, milk and dairy flavours at it.
Another experimental and small-scale mix to try when I get bored with the other flavours
Anyway, browsing the flavours I noticed Black Tea (VTA) and remembered how harsh the Chai was, which I’d assume could only mean that standard black tea would only be harsher still since Chai has all those spices in it and is generally yeah lovely I love chai tea - make it with powdered milk so I can increase the creaminess to more than fresh milk provides (I’m talking about actual food here, not flavourings).
And I don’t know whether Americans drink it or not, but over here - thanks to the English colonization of course - we like a decent cup of hot tea and I was thinking how Black Tea, plenty of milk/diary and some brown sugar could potentially create a nice rendition of the real thing - provided the black tea flavouring isn’t too blugh to work in a mix.
Hmm.
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Matter of fact I might have a go fixing the Chai Tea II (TFA) and Tiramisu (TFA) mixes tonight, once I’ve slapped some noodles together and eaten: just so I can find out whether there’s any point keeping the Chai and, well the Tiramisu is already very nice after a near half a year of steeping - as I’ve said in some other post recently.
I’m also curious to find out whether I’ve finally got a real coffee flavoured recipe I’m only a few steps away from creating, since NO coffee juice or flavour I’ve ever tasted has tasted like coffee that’s remotely close to something you’d ever wanna drink, as a drink.
That’s right - the Tiramisu thread it was, which wasn’t a thread requesting recipes but a statement that The Flavor Apprentice Tiramisu isn’t unusable like I’ve read a thousand times, it’s just no good as Tiramisu: re-consider it as a coffee flavour and it’s perfect - once you’ve set it aside to steep for a million years, anyhow.
So if it’s perfect now as a coffee without dairy, how good will it be with it added?
Best of all, that Tiramisu isn’t some piss-weak no-name flavour I’ve run out of or almost used-up: I’ve still got enough of the flavour itself left to make another half-litre of the shit…
Which I was supposed to do the other day, but forgot the VG while shopping 
Noodles…
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Today I’ve been giving Vapetrain English Toffee a go and I’m afraid to say it doesn’t impress me at all.
I mixed it @4% and it’s been steeping for 15 days.
Perhaps I’m being a bit harsh in my statement above as it’s not absolutely terrible but it’s not particularly nice either. Basically it’s nothing…
What I do taste is an extremely light toffee…ish type flavour that’s bordering on being burnt that is almost tasteless. Truly not my idea of what a toffee should taste like that I can probably use but it will not jump into my mind one bit when thinking of trying to create a juice with anything toffee related in its flavour.
I don’t believe that mixing it any stronger will help as the almost burnt taste could strengthen into a true burnt taste, and I’m sure the taste I associate with toffee will not emerge. I’ve been using it all day in the hope I might find something else to describe it as but enough is enough as I don’t believe my opinions are going to change.
I would rate it as 2/10 and most definitely would not buy it again.
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I would write him an email, or give the flavour a public review.
Email might be more productive: you could literally just copy/paste your above post in an email and send that.
Maybe they don’t know that flavour is so weak, or don’t know that customers don’t want weak flavours - regardless the spiel in the description.
In every instance they should sell us full strength concentrate and WARN us it’s super strong or meant to be used as a background accent or whatever.
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Here’s this week’s order… if the formatting works…
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Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Butter Base Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Liquid Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Macadamia Nut Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Liquid Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Raw Sugar Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Liquid Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Cheesecake DIY Flavour Concentrate for e-Juice Making - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Glazed Strawberries Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Juice Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Butterscotch Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Liquid Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Croissant Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Juice Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Warm Custard Concentrate DIY for e-liquid Recipe - 100ml -
Bottle Size:: 100ml 1
Vanilla Cream Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Juice Recipe - 100ml -
Bottle Size:: 100ml 1
Red Dates Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Juice Recipe - 30ml -
Bottle Size:: 30ml 1
Blueberry Flavour Concentrate DIY for e-Juice Recipe - 30ml
Butterscotch Custard here we come, if the Butterscotch doesn’t taste like shit anyway.
And though I don’t give a fuck about blueberry OR strawberry, since I’ve got the cheesecake I figure one or both might give me a different accent as a change from the endless custard and creams I’ve been mixing
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