Anyone here put PUR Marshmallow to use? How does it stand up against the much used FA Marshmallow?
After working with the PUR Marshmallow, I am pleasantly surprised with it; it is nicely in between a soft, vanilla like marshmallow and a marshmallow that you would find in a cereal such as Lucky Charms. Not quite as pungent as FLV Marshmallow, but better than CAP or LA.
I have my hands on both the NY Cheesecake and Cheesecake Graham as we speak. Both smell very good, with a slight hint of butter. Both have a good graham smell to them along with a VERY slight hint of coconut. Smelling them, I can tell they are not the same thing, but I cannot put my finger on what the subtle differences between them is.
Any thoughts on these two types of cheesecake?
Also, is the cheesecake graham just graham, or is it graham and cheesecake? I have this same question about TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust as many get a cheesecake taste from it while I only get graham with no cheesecake.
Copied from my notes:
Purilum Cheesecake Graham
Percentage Used: 7%
Equipment Used: Troll RDA with a wickless single SS .8 ohm Clapton wrapped parallel with 26g SS at 19W.
PG/VG: 30/70
Steep Time: 7 Weeks
Aroma: Medium strength, creamy vanilla, graham cracker dominant.
Flavor Description: Very, very good. Graham cracker crust is very dominant and good strength, and it tastes like the crackers moistened with a creamy butteriness. I’m not getting a lot of cheesecake itself, but it’s the best graham crust I’ve tried, with the sweet buttery moistness that has been missing in other brands. I am also getting notes of creamy coconut very similar to Purilum’s NY Cheesecake during the first 2 weeks. This is going to be a very popular flavor for me. Some people may find the coconut is too prominent, especially if they don’t like it, or it doesn’t work for the intended flavor profile during the first week or two. It’s less noticeable at lower percentages and does steep out, it’s the intensity of the graham cracker until it mellows.
Off Flavors: Coconut
Throat Hit: 3/10 Gets better with steeping.
Pairings: Desserts, bakeries, cookies, cereals, custards, anywhere you want body. Vanilla, cheesecake, fruits except citrus, cookie, pies, crust, butter, any creams, custard, condensed milk, cakes.
Notes: Very good strength at 7% for SF and 1.5-4% in blends. Compared to CAP Cheesecake Graham, this is much more authentic. Not as creamy as Caps, but it actually tastes like a real buttery graham crust itself.
Purilum NY Cheesecake
Percentage Used: 7%
Equipment Used: Troll RDA with a wickless single SS .8 ohm Clapton wrapped parallel with 26g SS at 19W.
PG/VG: 30/70
Steep Time: 5 Days
Aroma: Medium strength, sour cheese, graham cracker, hint of vanilla.
Flavor Description: It’s so yummy. Nothing like any other brands, and in a good way. I swear I’m tasting coconut and graham cracker? Vanilla stands out along with thick cream. None of that sour feet yuck, not a hint. As of now I’m not really getting cheesecake either though, more like a velvety buttery cream coconut cream with graham crust. I am sure that will change with a longer steep as it’s only been 5 days. Really surprised at how creamy it is in such a short time.
Off Flavors: Coconut, goes away with steep.
Throat Hit: 2/10
Pairings: Most any fleshy fruit or berries, no citrus. Cookies, cakes, pastries, donuts, cheesecakes, creams, custards, nuts, caramel, butterscotch, chocolate, crust, peanut butter, vanillas.
Notes: Comparing this to CAP NY Cheesecake? I can’t. CAP has a tangy/sour, very lightly sweetened thick creaminess with a dryness to it. At this point I wouldn’t even describe PUR as cheesecake. I would call it coconut cream pie w/graham crust. For at least the first week But I love it! Would I buy it…Yes, repeatedly. It’s a very unique flavor that doesn’t have anything similar from other manufacturers that I’m aware of. Will update after a longer steep.
EDIT: The hint of coconut steeped out. It seems it was the note I was getting from the graham cracker at first that mellowed with time. I’m not sure at what week it went from being Coconut Pie to NY Cheesecake, but it happened. Two flavors in one, S&V is Coconut Pie with Graham crust. Then it turns into a wonderfully thick creamy tangy cheesecake with a more pronounced graham crust than CAP’s.
Purilum Marshmallow
Percentage Used: 6%
Equipment Used: Troll RDA with a wickless single SS .8 ohm Clapton coil at 20W.
PG/VG: 30/70
Steep Time: 3 Days and 2 Weeks
Aroma: sticky sugar, faint vanilla.
Flavor Description: At a 3 day steep this is give me a spoon yummy!! It tastes just like that plastic tub of light and fluffy marshmallow creme. Slightly sweet, moist, airy, and a light vanilla. At a 2 week steep this has lost that sticky marshmallow crème it had before, and has developed into the most realistic marshmallow flavor I have tasted yet, even down to the powdery sweet outside of the marshmallow and the fluffy but still chewy body/mouthfeel. Except…vanilla. It still seems to have a noticeable vanilla flavor to me, which may put a few limitations on what you can mix it with, but very few as most things taste great with vanilla. Maybe it’s the sweetness that I am reading as vanilla? I will be very interested in hearing other’s opinions.
Off Flavors: Vanilla
Throat Hit: 1/10
Pairings: Almost any fruit. Cookies, cakes, cereal, creams, custards, nuts, tobaccos, bakeries, desserts. Almost anything.
Notes: Have I mentioned that I love this? And yes, that is very subjective and you may hate it with a passion. Like I hate FA Joy when I’m craving a flat warm beer, like never! This is going to be an amazing additive for sweetness and/or body. If you like marshmallow as a single flavor, I would recommend 6-8% in an RDA and for a tank around 7-9%. As an accent anywhere from .5-5% depending on the flavor or effect you are trying to achieve.
Comparison: CAP’s is also very sweet, but is missing that body/mouthfeel and doesn’t really taste like marshmallow to me, just generic sweetness. FA is a very good marshmallow, it has a sweet and mild marshmallow flavor that has a fantastic thick mouth feel and body. The marshmallow flavor is delicate and usually overwhelmed easily with the addition of addition flavors. I use it as a sweetener and body enhancer rather than flavor. RF is very similar to FA in that it’s a great sweetener and body enhancer with a very mild actual marshmallow flavor. PUR’s version actually has a moderate to full marshmallow flavor itself along with body and it’s not just a generic sweetness. But, as I’ve only tested the single flavor so far I’m not sure how strongly the flavor itself will stand out against other flavors.
All testing will be done on Steam Crave RDTA v1. using dual kanthal coils, cotton, @ 35-40w. All flavors (unless noted) tested @ 6%, steeped minimum of 1 week (subject to change). Mixed @ 70v/30p, and evaluated for single flavor only. Fresh cotton and dry burned coils before all tests.
N.Y. Cheesecake (PUR) 6% (7-22-17) – Over a weeks steep to see if this would be a cheesecake I could actually vape. In a word, YES !!! Mirroring what @Mystic_Rose said this one IS a very unique cheesecake, and not really like any other manufacturer. Very nice and creamy, and great crust with cheesecake without any of the footy-ness our sourness found in most others. After 1 week 3 days, seemed like an even mix of crust and cheesecake, may try later and test past 2 weeks to see if it changes. Not bad at all throughout my testing. Very recommended @ 10/10.
Cheesecake Graham Crust (PUR) 6% (7-23-17) – This one clearly is a close cousin of PUR N.Y. Cheesecake. It is a very good, full, sweet graham cracker crust, but with a hint of PUR Cheesecake. The two are almost identical to one another with exception of the percentages, i.e. N.Y. Cheesecake is 75% cheesecake, and 25% graham crust, and this one is 75% graham crust, and 25% cheesecake. Missing a smidge of body from my fav. TPA, but good none the less, and it’s dik. free. Don’t get any cinnamon notes, or off putting flavors and it’s very satisfying. Don’t think it will kick my TPA graham crust off it’s perch, but still very tasty. Because TPA holds the high spot for me, I feel comfortable tagging this with 8.5/10.
Watermelon (PUR) 6% (7-21-17) – After a week+ steep on this one was a very good watermelon. Nothing artificial or fake tasting. I do think it leans towards the candy side, but not in a bad way, and it might even elevate it some. Probably one of the better watermelons I’ve tried. Not sure if going past 6% would increase it or not. @ 6% pretty damned good. 9.5/10 on this one for me.
Condensed Milk (PUR) 6% (7-29-17) – 1 week 2 day steep for this one. Overall this was a very good CM. All the elements were there, with just the right amount of sweetness not as to overpower the mix. Can def. see this being a good mixer. As a SF test, and not expecting it to be a loud flavor, this one fit right in @ 7.5/10.
Cream Dream (NR) 6% (7-29-17) – This one went through some changes during it’s 1 week + steep. Every once in awhile there was a strange off note, perhaps part of the creamy element, other times it would fade. Vaping it revealed a creamy/berry mix. Overall mix was quite good, nice mouthfeel, but the unknown element showed back up. Perhaps some will NOT find it off putting. Although I finished the tester that “note” didn’t enhance the flavor for me, which leaves me sticking this one at 3/10.
Strawberry Biscuit (NR) 6% (7-16-17) – Very first Purilum flavor tested. This one caught me off guard on the first vape with it’s very good strawberry and some biscuit and maybe a little butter thrown in. Didn’t get any artificial notes from it, and nothing off putting could be found. Strawberry is sweet, assuming a jam, it works pretty good here. Biscuit/butter is also very on point, weaker than the strawberry, but still there enough to be known. Overall for the name, it’s about 9.5/10 for a spot on SB.
Cookie (PUR) 6% (8-6-17) – 2 weeks of steeping revealed this one to be an interesting flavor. Wasn’t what I was expecting. Not like CAP Sugar Cookie, or FA Cookie, but biscotti like ? Not sure. Leaned more towards the FA Cookie while being somewhat drier but sweet. On the exhale it really didn’t kick in the buttery cookie-ness that I was expecting. Plenty strong and even @ 6%. Not getting a lot of butter in it (which is what I typically want with a cookie). Perhaps this is just a different type of cookie. For me (big CAP Sugar Cookie fan) it wasn’t what I wanted in a cookie. Something on the exhale that I wasn’t a fan of, the sweetener maybe ? Maybe for layering cookie bases perhaps. Feeling O.K. @ 3.5/10 for this.
Boysenberry Preserves (PUR) 6% (8-7-17) – 2 weeks steep, and this one nailed it RIGHT out of the gate. This one really hit all the main points, boysenberry, sweetness, tartness, preserves, check. Not sure how you go about adding the preserve-ish’ness to a flavor, but they did it. @ 6%, strength and sweetness were both on point, and continued vaping left me struggling to find any faults with this one, and cannot. Did make me want to mix up some more with some biscuit adds to see where that went. If you like a moderately sweet, tart boysenberry flavor with a side of “preserves” this one WILL do it for you. 10/10.
Nilla Wafer with Milk (PUR) 6% (8-7-17) – 2 weeks of waiting because I love nilla wafers. Sadly don’t think I’ll even be finishing the 3ml tester tank of this one. I have no clue what this is. Almost like an odd sugar cookie with some other strange notes maybe ? If I focus VERY hard, maybe I can make out an attempt at nilla wafers, but it’s just not there for me. Maybe getting some kind of condensed milk in there, but hard to tell as this is a hodgepodge of “not so good” for me. Maybe it’ll work for you, but for me, it was a waste of cotton. 1.5/10.
Strawberry Marshmallow Cereal (PUR) 6% (8-7-17) – Having grown up with Frakenberry cereal had a hard time waiting 2 weeks for this one, as it smelled very promising in the bottle. After waiting, was pleasantly surprised to find this was almost exactly Frankenberry cereal. For those that don’t know, it was an artificially flavored strawberry marshmallow cereal. Don’t get any “cereal” notes, but that’s just fine as the strawberry marshmallow and a hint of milk/creme are all over this mix. Even mix, sweeteness is good, and the strawberry w./ a smidge of milk is all very good. Now typically when I hear “artificial” I run for the door. It’s NOT in a bad way in this one, and works perfectly. It’s so good to my pallete that I cannot go less than 10/10.
Lucky Lephrecan (PUR) 6% (8-9-17) – 2 week steep to see if this would be any different than the other “Lucky Charms” cereals I’ve tried. Basically, it was right about the rest. Not terrible, not great, just average. Some are all punchy high notes, some are all low grainy notes, but I’ve never found one that does it all. This one’s in the ballpark, and surely could be a starting point for a lucky charms mix, but it just seems to be missing something, maybe the high end punch, not sure. Great cereal base with sweetness and some mallow. It seems to have nailed the cereal part pretty good, some grains but not overly so, the the really sweet marshmallow high end punch is missing. Not bad at all, just not IT. Because I’ve never found a single SF cereal flavor that did everything right, hard to fault this more than the others. Leveraging it @ 6.5/10.
Butter Pecan (PUR) 6% (8-12-17) – 2 week steep just to see how it would hold up against FW BP. Overall the mix was very even, but simply just average. Not terrible, not great, just average. Maybe use as a layering profile, but don’t think it could carry BC on it’s own. Middle of the road, puts it in as a 5/10.
Vanilla Custard (PUR) 6% (8-13-17) – 2 week steep to see if I could add this to my VC obsession list. After 2 weeks @ 6% this one was like a Custard Brick To the FACE !!! Sadly NOT in a good way. I’m a VC junkie, so I do not say this lightly. NOW, I will re-test it lower than 6% to rule out too heavy of a mix. It seemed like that could be possible here, it was an overwhelmingly cloying tankful with my tester. VERY eggy/eggish much like INW VC but stronger egg. Even though eggy’ness isn’t my thing, it wouldn’t have made this a deal breaker. Had an almost harsh aftertaste on the exhale. It was very sweet/strong @ 6%, like a stronger eggy’ier cousin to the INW. Because of the very sweet, heavy eggy, strange note on exhale wasn’t able to finish the 3ml tester on this one. Not a good score for me @ 6%. I have to go 2/10, but will RE-test at a lower rate and add that to this review.
Bavarian Cream (PUR) 6% (8-20-17) – Waited 2+ weeks to see how this would taste, and I’m a huge BC fan. My current go to is TPA. Smelled ok on the sniff, but vaping it revealed even LESS for me. Kind of a mish-mosh, bland-ish flavor with no real stand out notes for me, especially anything bavarian. Doesn’t mean it’s terrible, just means it’s NOT a BC for me. About the same inhale/exhale, and no exciting things showed up during the test to speak of. Nothing off-putting, just nothing really BC. Going to go with a low 1.5/10 on this one for me.
Banana (PUR) 6% (8-21-17) – 2+ weeks steep. I’ve not had great luck with bananas so wasn’t expecting much here. First things first, not too bad at all. Vaping while typing, leaves me unclear on exactly how the “real banana” vs. “candy banana” split is. It seems like both, but almost an even 50/50 split. Not too much of one or the other. Very full @ 6%, pushing from just sweet enough to MAYBE a tad heavy, but not in a bad way. Unsure how it would mix, but as a SF test, I’m actually pretty surprised. Not bad at all. Some fresh banana with some candied “runt like” notes to it. I think because it’s not one OR the other fresh vs. candy, it could be more versatile. Solidly placing this at a 9/10.
Cereal (PUR) 6% (8-22-17) – 2+ weeks steep. Cereals can be hard to explain, and this is one of them. Almost reminds me of a fairly sweet version of the grainy pieces in a Lucky Charms box, without the marshmallows. On the inhale the sweetness is very present without a lot of cereal or grain, on the exhale the ceral/grain steps up, but only a bit, with the sweetness still being the dominant aspect. Continued vaping reveals that there is not much “grain” in this cereal. Might just be too sweet, but that’s a personal thing. I personally prefer more grain, but not overpowering grain/cereal in my cereals. TPA Lucky Lephrechaun comes to mind. Overall the mix was fairly even, but for the rather sweet aspect. Because of my grainy/cereal needs, this one sits at a 6/10.
Raspberry (PUR) 6% (8-30-17) – 2+ weeks steep on this the LAST PUR flavor in this test run. I think the BEST thing about this one, was it didn’t taste artificial, and didn’t have any chemical notes. It was an ok RB, but very laid back. Some sweet, a little tart on the inhale, some more sweet and tart with some raspberry on the exhale. Wasn’t wowed by it overall, despite it being an ok RB. Lacked most of the punch that I want in a fruit, and a RB in particular. May re-test to see if increasing it makes a difference. Good flavor, too subtle @ 6%. Hard to to number it as the flavor wasn’t bad, just the quantity of it. Leaving it @ 6/10.
Ah, a new SF Purilum thread, let it begin. Will gather what I have and leave it here…
Drop it like you stole it !!!
Lol, I shoplifted all of my flavors, duh…
So lets see here, last ones I did were the Gummy Candy and Jelly Candy…
Gummy Candy- This one was very similar to TFA Gummy Candy, but a bit more smooth. Both still have that not chalky taste, but something almost bitter/ chalky? I am sure it is very difficult to put the taste of gelatin (bones, hoofs, knuckles of a cow, lol) into a flavor. I can say though, this and the jelly candy are distinctly different. I did this at 5% as well, but could not vape on it for long. Perhaps it would be better lower, but even at low %'s I found little in the way of taste. As for the texture, it has a powdery taste but it is almost off-putting? I am very interested to see how others will make this work and what they have to say about it. I could see it mixing well with the jelly candy to make a good gummy flavor.
Jelly Candy- This one was the better of the two, sweet but not overly sweet. Had a good, gummy/ jelly note to it, very clear, no off taste. I used it up to 5% before I was satisfied. Won’t get lost in the background of other flavors, but also won’t take over a mix. Pretty much does what it is supposed to. Very similar to CAP Jelly Candy, but the CAP version has a pineapple note to it and can sometimes taste chalky while this one is very clean. Would vape it by itself, but wouldn’t complain if I had to, it carries enough of it’s own taste while at the same time being a good backdrop. Makes a good fruit snack/ gummy (er, I guess that is what jelly candy is, duh).
More to come, just wanted to start with that. I know @MysticRose has tried quite a few, but I found myself using different (lower) percentages than she did. I am sure it is all a difference in the mod you use and how your taste perceives it, but this thread will not only help with flavor profiles, it will also give a good idea on suggested %'s.
Oh yea, jelly vs gummy, for those who are curious…
http://www.candyblog.net/blog/item/candy_encyclopedia_the_difference_between_gummi_and_jelly
Well dammit, now I know something NEW !!! I think I lean more towards the gummy myself, and have never vaped anything gummy, I think I may have to try. Beyond that, where the @$%#%^$%& can I get the dancing bear rings, as I NEED THEM !!!
I have tried and have tasting notes on all the Purilum flavors except Melon Patch, which is sitting beside me waiting.
They are all under the notes on the recipe side of elr if anyone is interested. If I coped and pasted all my notes here it would take up too much of the thread me thinks
Unless I have already deleted some of them? I am trying to clean up my flavor list to make it current, but I don’t think I have deleted any of the Purilum yet.
You probably have the MOST notes on the PUR line, not to mention the most extensive ones. Do you know if the notes remain when you delete a flavor from your stash?
No, they don’t. That is why my flavor list is so far out of date, didn’t want to lose the notes
@MysticRose No no, PLEASE take over the thread. I saw another (kinda) Purilum thread but it kind of meandered a bit. Can you copy/paste here ??
It really would put a bunch of boring notes that people will get tired of scrolling through. Although then I could delete some flavors from my stash without feeling bad because all the notes are deleted along with the flavors. It really would be an irritating lot of info to scroll past though
I don’t mind…
How about pasting it in a document and putting it on something like dropbox or google docs? Or if you wanted, send it to me and I’ll put it on my Google drive with all the other vape stuff and post a link. Just a thought.
@MysticRose I didn’t mean to sound like I was making “busy work” for you, but I’ve read some of your reviews on NR’s website, and they are outstanding IMO.
Your never boring. You do something magical that I can’t seem to force myself to do.
I don’t speak for everyone, but I wouldn’t mind scrolling through. Granted, I’ll likely read a great number of them.