This is the one great big, over-ridingly important topic of the moment, and there’s already a huge amount of vebiage to wade through on this forum and elsewhere. Indeed, our ever- vigilant members have probably already posted links to all the relevant artcles and official pronouncements, and expressed their opinions in 200-plus (soon to be banned) flavours
What I’m thinking is this: probably the vast majority of us are going to be involved in advocacy on one level or another, even if it’s just persuading our mates that the official line is a load of tosh. And that includes we non-Americans, because the whole world is looking at what’s going down in the U.S.A. right now, and being influenced by US news reports.
So we need a thread that gathers together all the most pithy and hard-hitting arguments, and all the most useful links, for use as ammunition and education; and that gathers together all known facts on related issues such as the recent deaths-by-vaping.
Hopefully, this is it. But I’m gonna need your help, guys.
If you guys want to post your suggestions , I’ll repost them as lists under the the following heasders (next few posts, which I’ll try to nab fast) . Not necessarily in this order (and I’m open to sugestions for further categories)
Quotes. A) Arguments, observations.
B) official statementsts (eg FDA, Trump) Try to extract the nitty gritty fronm those horribly wordy official sources
Links A) relevant threads in this forum (see below)
B) Research papers
C) Official statements (links to full text)
D) Media - for, against, and neutral for reference.( We want the best “for” articles, and a the most influential of the rest
E) any particularly informative, or persuasive individual posts?
Please be judicious. The idea is to sort out the most useful material from the increasingly long and convoluted discussions, so don;t throw in everything you agree with or like, try to whittle it down.
Also check out what other people have posted here already. If it’s the exact same thing that you were going to post, don’t repost, just “like” the original post. I intend to use those likes as a guide to listing, i,e, i will try to put the most liked quotes etc. at the top of the list. A sort of manual upvoting process (apologies in advance for probable human errors).
Also, try to add quotes that throw a different light on the issue. not the same old point in different words 50 times over. I’m hoping to wind up with a complete set of relevant arguments
Please accompany any quote with the appropriate citation. . In the event that you’re quoting one of our members, that means a link to the post where they said it. That said, I doubt that any of us give a damn if our “original” points end up getting recycled elsewhere without acknowledgement . Chances are that somebody, somewhere said it first, anyway. And quoting ,say, "jay210 from ELR forum’ does not exactly add a stamp of authority does it? . The point is whatever the point is, not who said it. However, citing the post might help the reader of this thread to put it in context…and give us a chance to pat ourselves on the back
OK, I’ll start us off with a list of relevant threads. Please add any that i’ve missed, but more importantly, go and get mining them! and bring the gold back to this thread
20-22 people linked to health related vaping problems:
Michigan becomes first state to ban flavored e-cigarettes, cites dangers of vaping
Drums of War in the Ongoing FDA Flavorings Inquisition?
Stop Donald Trump from signing the federal flavor ban
New nicotine safety rule could hit vaping hard
Edmonton Alberta Just Banned Flavoured E-liquid Sales
“It ain’t over till it’s over” -Yogi Berra
Real, factual, rational conversation for prepping in light of bans
And remember, that your ‘‘likes’’ are gonna be used for upvoting. So try to "like’’ according to factors such as clarity and relevance, not just to say ‘‘right on, Bro ‘’ or ‘’ LOL’’